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10-tabling $60 Turbos and SnG Discussion
By dhubermex on 07-20-2006 9:00 PM

7/8 - 7/20 = (12 days)

Played:                                      450

Avg. Played per Day                     37.5
Invested:                             ($27,000.00)

Returned:                              $29,502.00
Total Profit:                           $ 2,502.00
Avg. Daily Profit:                      $ 208.50
Avg. Weekly Profit:                 $ 1,459.50
Avg. Monthly Profit:                $ 6,255.00 (pro-rated)
Profit Per SnG:                           $5.56
ROI:                                       + 9.27%
Hourly Rate:                             $50.04  (*approx. 50 hours invested)
Best Set of 10:                       + $708.00
Worst Set of 10:                      ($501.00)
Largest Positive Variance:       + 41 buy-ins
Largest Negative Variance:      - 17 buy-ins
ITM:                                 177/450 = 39.33%
1st:    65
2nd:   47
3rd:    65
xxx:   273


Well, the sample size is a tad larger this time around, so I'm a little more confident about the numbers I'm seeing.  The heads-up numbers have finally started improving, but I honestly can't find any difference in the way I was playing heads-up when the numbers were reversed.  The bottom line: I'm thrilled at the hourly rate I'm seeing.  It's peanuts to some of the Big Dogs, but awesome money for me.

I tried 8-tabling for the first part of this exercise, but got extremely bored with it.  So I moved up to 10-tabling and feel more comfortable now.

Feel free to post your comments or ask any questions you like, and I'll try my best to answer them as prudently as I can.  I realize some may be skeptical when viewing statistics of this nature, so I invite you to confirm the above information by using a results tracking site of your choice.

I will post again when I have completed around 700. 

David Huber
(dhubermex)
 
 
 

Re(1): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By wuwut666 on 07-20-2006 9:42 PM

nice stats my man... hopefully i start the 60$ soon after i finish with the 27s :)

Re(1): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By supermoves on 07-20-2006 9:53 PM

I am always amazed at people who make a profit muti-tabling...how in the hell can you remember players tendancies and previous hands with TEN tables?  Wouldnt it be better to play ONE $1000 sng?

Re(2): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By wuwut666 on 07-20-2006 10:01 PM

no tendencies in turbos... your table pops, look at ur hand, ur stack, the blinds, the stacks in the blinds, the bubble situation (ex: mid stack in BB and small stack in SB and im big stack on the button equals automatic push) and HU any picture card or connectors is all in baby.

Re(3): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By Generaly on 07-20-2006 10:08 PM

David,

What type of set up do you have insofaras screen size, resolution, resizing of tables, over lapping, ect.

Thanks

Re(2): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By dhubermex on 07-20-2006 10:10 PM

My bankroll (about 100 buy-ins at the $60 level) could hardly withstand a $1,000 SnG (or $500 SnG, for that matter).  However, it's enough to very-comfortably 10-table the $60s.  If I had to guess, I'd say my overall expectation at a high-stakes SnG like that would be negative (pehaps as low as -20% ROI) because I'd be so frozen by the money.  That's not the case in the $60s... because it's monetarily insignificant what happens (as long as I'm playing my best) in one, two, or ten tournaments, and this allows me to play more effectively on the Bubble.

If I had to name a few of the players who are absolutely killing $27 or $60 SnG's right now, I'd mention "bdubs3737", "BBJohn", and "AmazingErvin".  These guys all have a couple of things in common: (a) opponents call them all sorts of nasty names due to the way these guys nonchalantly dominate the bubble (b) anyone can raise, but they are not afraid to CALL on the bubble (c) they play 10+ tables at a time.  There are a few others who I'm sure I haven't noticed, but those 3 are fun to watch & play against.

As far as the "set-up" I have, this is best answered by reading my post at the following link (see #6):

http://www.pocketfives.com/C8098CE9-CB3A-46F2-A5DB-C2A1AA0DEE10.aspx

Re(3): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By MadTiger on 07-20-2006 10:43 PM

"because it's monetarily insignificant what happens (as long as I'm playing my best) in one, two, or ten tournaments, and this allows me to play more effectively on the Bubble."

This, my friends, is how you know when you are playing at the right limits.

a) You are not transfixed by the limits/buy-in (starstruck, if you will), and are simply trying to play your best game.

b) If you don't have any good results right away, you won't be busto from a normal downswing.

Re(4): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By alwaysdrowning on 07-20-2006 10:50 PM

dhubermex is my idol. People like him who are so so focused really inspire me. I'm thinking about diving into this multitabling turbo business at some point, but I can never really trust myself to retain concentration :).

Re(5): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By Sokpuppet7 on 07-20-2006 10:58 PM

Haha... this is funny... I was just talking to Seykota about the same thing... Every single time dhuber posts his stats I think to myself "wow, that isnt a huge ROI (no offense dhuber, cuz you're playing a ton of tables) yet he still has a HUGE hourly rate... I could do this!" and I get inspired to give it a try... yet for some reaon i haven't done it... Nevertheless, your commitment is amazing dhuber, keep it up!

Re(6): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By makeway on 07-20-2006 11:02 PM

Nice job David, keep up the fantastic work, I also admire your hourly rate.

Re(7): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By timzc1 on 07-20-2006 11:12 PM

yeah some  impressive stats... 10% roi is v reasonable at this 60$ level... but tot hink 10 at a time, wow.  v nice hrly rate.

1 thought: get say 1 month of full time job at 10 -table the sng.  then try say 7 tables for say 1 week see what happens to the ROI and hrly rate; then try 12 for one week...

you can tweek what you do long term based on such experiments.

2k over what 12 days and 50 hrs work is v nice.  good job!

--tc

Re(8): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By The Mooks on 07-20-2006 11:21 PM

David, congrats on the results looks like you are a very capable player. I have been recently 4 and 8 tabling the 20 dollar 9 man sit n gos with modest profits. My question is whether you think playing the turbos is a more efficient way to make money? And also when i was 8-tabling i was sometimes overwhelmed when it got short handed in alot of them, do you have problems with this or are you really that much of a robot? Thanks.

The Mooks

Re(5): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By FouTight on 07-20-2006 11:36 PM

im doing it right now, although at the 6.50$ level.

I think im playing optimally - but how the hell can i know???? 

good work Huber, very impressive and inspiring

Re(3): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By neophyte on 07-20-2006 11:43 PM

"anyone can raise, but they are not afraid to CALL on the bubble"
This sentence was alittle alarming to me.  Maybe its due do the diffrence in the players in the 60 and 15s(where i am).  do some of them over estimate the gap?

  Maybe Im shockd bc most tips simplify the gap which kinda says calling is bad. 

When i call on the bubble i try and go along with sng powertools +$EV situations.  I am able to ignore the money, and go for teh $EV+.  is this good enough?  when you say not afraid to call do you mean anything more than what im already trying to do? 

Its late i don't even know what im asking anymore, that sentence just shockd me

Re(1): Updated Stats: 10-tabling $60 Turbo SnG's on PokerStars In reply to
By pariah on 07-21-2006 12:44 AM

I tried looking but didn't find it yet if it's been posted. But do you have your ROI & number of games played for each level? I think you mentioned you started with the $6.50's, right?
 
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