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Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game.
By KJatl on 02-17-2006 11:25 AM

I play NL HE generally 50$ buy in (.25/.50) on PP and have lost the vast majority of my money in the following way. I will raise or re-raise what I thought was an amount that showed strength, get called and see what I consider to be a relatively harmless flop, and end up getting all my money in with the worst hand. This generally happens when theflop comes something like 268. I'll have an overpair, or pocket aces, bet the pot, get called and the turn comes a 3 or a J. In the first scenario, I never consider the guy having 45o and I end up getting all my money in drawing dead. In the 2nd scenario, I'll have an overpair to the J, and still believe I have the best hand. The guy will show up J2 or J8 for two pair and take the pot.

Basically... I fail to consider people calling me with trash, and am even worse at realizing when their trash hits. Any help on how to handle these situations better would be greatly appreciated. Should I raise more preflop and make it completely unaffordable to call with junk? Should I bet the flop harder if I should be ahead to prevent any drawing out on me? I usually bet the pot, which is not typically that large at that point, if I have an overpair to the board.

My typical preflop raise with a strong hand is 2$.

 
 
 

Re(1): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By bdluss on 02-17-2006 12:52 PM

My simple solution is this, raise more preflop to eliminate opponent possible holdings.  Keep in mind at this level if you start with the max buy in you have 100 big blinds.  If you are having a good run you could even have more.  So to call someone's 4 bb raise preflop with a well disguised hand if your both deep is a good strategy.  So raise closer to 6 big blinds if your first to enter.  Also, the more people have limped in prior to the raise, the more you need to raise.  Example, if 4 people limp and you have KK, you need to raise closer to $5 so you can get this pot heads up and not take it 3-4 ways.  Remember also, big pots are rarely won with 1 pair, so don't fall in love with just 1 pair when you play a big pot.

Re(2): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By jay_shark on 02-17-2006 1:30 PM

Next time you're playing , keep track at how often a player calls raises or how he plays in a limped pot . If you notice that he frequently calls raises , then there is reason to believe that he holds trash most of the time and so you cannot neglect the possibility of him holding bottom two pair even if it's double or triple gapped .

Next thing you should do is to keep track at how often he plays his hands on the turn when he does play a hand . Does he typically fold on the flop when he misses his hand or does he like to splash around ? If the latter is true , then there is no reason to be suspicious if he sees the turn card . If the former is true  , then all your subsequent moves should be played with extreme caution as he's most likely representing a strong hand .


Re(3): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By Lightning007 on 02-18-2006 6:46 PM

This is not playing advice but I had the same thing happening to me on PP and I switched to Bodog and I have been winning much more than I ever did on PP.  I dont know if you will find the same thing but they give a 10% up front bonus so it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot.


Re(4): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By Tim Lock on 02-18-2006 10:51 PM

Shh.... This is terrible advice.  Bodog has probably the toughtest competition out there.  Stay away.  Far far away. 

Tim Lock


Re(1): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By xSneakyKatx on 02-18-2006 11:05 PM

bodog has quite possibly the best NL players of any site.   dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
They make party look like ur kiddy game

Re(2): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By Lightning007 on 02-18-2006 11:39 PM

I'm surprised to hear that i find them to be very soft most of the time.  Maybe i should go back to PP and see how I do there now, i guess I've improved more than I thought.


Re(3): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By Tim Lock on 02-18-2006 11:48 PM

Yes, you should.  If you can beat Bodog players, you can beat anyone.  That's a fact, Jack.

Tim Lock

Re(4): Re-occuring problem, how to fix this hole in my game. In reply to
By Lightning007 on 02-18-2006 11:49 PM

Posted to offer advice and I got some myself, thanks I'll give it a shot.

 
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