Catching Bluffs from Weak Players[ return to main articles page ]

By: Bond18
Published on Nov 24th, 2008
The title of this entry into the series must seem odd at first glance. Since when do weak players do all that much bluffing? Youre right to think that they dont, however amongst weak players (particularly live as there are fewer and fewer weak ones online) there is a tendency towards what I call "desperation bluffing." These are bluffs where theyve gotten to the river without any real plan for the hand, and now have a holding with zero showdown value so they attempt a bluff because theyre out of options. Although most of these players do tend to be weak and passive throughout the hand, they are often willing to attempt one street bluff, especially if its the only way they can win the hand. Lets take at a couple of forms of the desperation bluff:

1. The missed draw bluff: This is of course very common. You still see this one pretty frequently online and many players are aware of it. The action for this mostly goes down as: flop call, turn check/check, and a river bluff.

It can happen when youre both in position and out of position, but you can expect it a little more when youre in position because if you have showdown value on the river out of position youre sometimes value betting instead of checking to attempt to bluff catch. This depends on the strength of your hand and how the board has run out.

So to give an example hand of this concept in use:

Your stack: 4000
MP1s stack: 4000
Blinds 25/50

You hold 9 9 on the button.
MP1 seems on the weak/loose side and has open-limped before.
Preflop: Folds to MP1, MP1 calls for 50, folds to you on the button, you raise to 200, folds back to MP1, MP1 calls.

Flop: J 8 5 (Pot 475)

MP1 checks, you bet 350, MP1 calls.

Turn: 5

MP1 checks, you check behind for pot control. Against certain opponents you could bet again here for value, but against many others a check is appropriate.

River: 2

MP1 fires out 800, you call.

While you wont always be good here, its pretty obvious that you should call as numerous draws have missed (the flush draw, 7-6, and T-9). Against a weak opponent you shouldnt expect him to be value- betting with a worse hand very often, though his showing up with A8s wouldnt be crazy.

Whether you should value bet or check to induce a bluff when you're out of position on the river depends on a few factors and will partially rely on your hand and pattern reading. If hes the kind of player who peels the flop with any pair and a huge station on the river, you can lean towards value betting. If you arent really sure and dont expect him to pay off multiple streets, then check with the intention of snapping a bluff. Now lets take a look at a second situation you can snap off frequent bluffs.

2. When a player is too weak at value betting to have it, bluff: These are fun bluffs to call down because when you catch the player you look like a damn genius when really the reasoning is quite straight forward. Many weak players are quite bad at value betting for fairly obvious reasons -- they arent aggressive and their hand reading is very weak.

As a result, when they have a hand with showdown value that theyre not sure of they tend to check and hope to get to turn cards over. So when a scare card comes that they wont likely have and you check on it, you sometimes see these players attempt to bluff this card and you know that their range is polarized to big hands and air. A good example hand is from a tournament I recently played at Crown Casino during the Poker News Cup.

The tournament was a $2,500 AUD buy-in event that wound up featuring more sit and go structure than a proper tournament. The opponent was a local player who is a very nice guy but excessively loose and weak, and capable of occasional bluffs. He regards me as an aggressive thinking player and expects me to continuation bet a high percentage of the time on the flop.

My stack: ~13000, MP2s stack: ~21000, BB: ~15000, blinds 100/200.

I hold 7 7 on the CO.

Preflop: Folds to MP2, MP2 calls for 200, HJ folds, I raise to 800, folds to the BB, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 8 4 3 rainbow (Pot 2,500)

BB checks, MP2 checks, I bet 1500, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: A

MP2 checks, I check behind.

River: T

MP2 bets 2,500 and my chips are in the pot about a tenth of a second after his. MP2 has 5-4 and turned a hand with showdown value into a bluff and asks, How do you call?! He's befuddled when he sees my hand.

The reason this hand is such an instant call is because I know this player isnt the type to attempt to value bet an 8 against me on the river, especially once a scare card comes off. I can feel comfortable saying that although its unlikely he has one; hes also basically never value betting a 10 either. Although he could in fact have an ace because hes so loose, for the most part hes going to either raise himself preflop or give up on the flop considering I fired into two players.

There are many situations like this, particularly in live play, where some players simply cant value bet unless they are very confident in their hand's strength. Against these kinds of players, you should be willing to call down their river bets in situations where they often have polarized ranges as they simply cant have huge hands that often.

* Tony Bond18 Dunst is a PocketFives.com Triple Crown winner and a respected poker author. This article is Part 21 of his Things it took me a while to learn series. To read more articles from Bond18, visit his PocketFives profile page, our Poker Articles section, or his blogsite, www.tworags.com.





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Comments

  1. <p>great article tony, keep it up.</p>
    <p>nice meeting you in macau homie.</p>
     
  2. <p>nice article</p>
    <p>thnx</p>
  3. <p>This is something everyone should know already tbh ;P</p>
  4. <p>can he really show up with a8s in first example?</p>
    <p>thanks bond, really enjoy your work.</p>
  5. <p>Nice example second hand, makes sense but not so obvious</p>
     
  6. <p>good article. I also hope for your continued success online and live. </p>
 

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