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Jonathan Aguiar (FatalError) Calls Out WSOP for Verbalize Your Action Rule[ return to main articles page ]

By: Dan Katz    [See all articles by Dan Katz]
Published on Jun 5th, 2012
One thing everyone can count on at the World Series of Poker (WSOP) is that it will never be without controversy. Be it food, restrooms, or temperature, there are always issues that raise the dander of the players. The 2012 WSOP is no exception. So far this year, there has been one issue that has turned into the hot button topic of the poker festival: the “verbalize your action” rule at final tables.

The rule itself was not particularly well known until the final table of Event #5, $1,500 Pot-Limit Hold’em, which concluded Friday night. As stated in Rule 88 of the official WSOP tournament rulebook, “Participants at all bracelet event final and feature tables are required to verbalize each action in the form of ‘Check,’ ‘Bet,’ or specific amount, ‘Call,’ ‘Raise,’ or ‘All-In.’ Violators will receive a penalty in accordance with Rules 39, 102, and 103.”

The penalties can include anything tournament officials deem appropriate, from forfeiture of chips to being forced to miss hands or orbits to disqualification from the tournament.

Apparently, tournament officials told the last few players left in the event that they must announce all actions and allegedly even threatened penalties for non-compliance. Third place finisher Jonathan FatalError Aguiar (pictured) vented his frustrations on Twitter the next day, writing, “The @wsop final table rule [requiring players] to announce every single action and bet is possibly the worst rule in poker history @wsoptd.”

He continued, saying that no mention of the rule was made until after PokerStars pro Daniel Negreanu busted from the tournament in fifth place. Aguiar also added that at one point, a floor man threatened to end the tournament with three players remaining if the finalists did not want to obey the rules.

It would have been controversy enough if the discussion remained limited to the merits of the rule, but then it got taken up a notch. Seth Palansky, Vice President of Corporate Communications for the WSOP, re-Tweeted a Tweet originally posted by poker player Shawn Daniels that read, “@JonAguiar @wsop @wsoptd Why are you the only one who cries all day every day about everything? Adapt and stop sounding like a complete bitch.”

To make matters worse, the message showed up on the Twitter feed on the front page of WSOP.com and remained on the site for hours until somebody finally took it down. Needless to say, this caused an explosion in the poker community, with players everywhere admonishing Palansky and the WSOP for the lack of professionalism.

Aguiar, being the subject of the Tweet, didn’t take kindly to it either, Tweeting back, “@wsop @wsoptd @wsopprguy Hey guys, keep disgracing your brand, you've already run the WSOP into the ground, Benny Binion would be disgusted.”

Palansky apologized in an interview with QuadJacks on Sunday, saying he had intended to “favorite” the Tweet and that he has had personal issues with Aguiar in the past. He also Tweeted an apology on Monday: “Sorry for the offensive RT/language on @WSOP account. It was wrong & a bad moment. Love the WSOP & the players. Sorry for damage done.”

Palansky said that poker reporters Jay whojedi Newnum and Jessica Welman would manage the @WSOP account going forward. Palansky’s account, @WSOPPRGUY, appears to be closed.

WSOP Tournament Director Jack Effel (pictured) addressed the "verbalize actions rule" in a separate interview with QuadJacks on Sunday. He said that the rule’s intent was to make final broadcasts, both on television and online, easier to follow, especially for casual fans. He said that it will not be mandatory for players to announce their actions, although players will be encouraged to do so. No penalties will be levied.

In other WSOP news, many of you may have heard about the 9 hour, 25 minute heads-up match between Aubin Cazals and Warwick Mirzikinian in the semifinals of the $5,000 No Limit Hold’em Mixed-Max event on Sunday.

As previously reported on PocketFives, Cazals and the winner of the other semifinal, Joseph subiime Cheong, agreed to postpone the finals match until Tuesday, as Cazals was dead tired and Cheong had entered a separate $1,500 event. They were not allowed to do so, however, partly because Nevada Gaming Commission regulations forbid changes to a tournament’s schedule once it has been submitted.

The other reason, however, that WSOP Media Director Nolan Dalla (pictured) gave was a little dicier. “You can't postpone things into Tuesday because the sports book had taken action on it,” Dalla told PocketFives in an exclusive statement.

Cheong was not thrilled with the sports betting reason, Tweeting that it was “absurd.” The two players eventually decided to play at 9:00am on Monday, a time that was moved to Noon once Cheong was eliminated from another tournament.

Finally, there has been some buzz about David “All-American Dave” Swanson, a health and fitness coach who delivers healthy, prepared meals to a number of poker players at the WSOP. The word is that the Rio wants to start charging him for bringing food to the WSOP, something that has many players up in arms, as they don’t want to be forced to eat what the Rio has to offer.

It sounds like it is not the WSOP itself that is standing in the way, as Effel Tweeted, “Nobody is trying to ban Dave. We are working with him so he can continue serving. I support 100%.”

Swanson has also confirmed that things are being worked out, Tweeting, “They are being very understanding and working with me. I believe everything will be copasetic, just getting things in order.”

Comments

  1. Verbalize your action sounds like some utter BS. Good to hear that they aren't planning on doling out penalties, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. I can see the need for verbalization in some instances, but it's absurd to make someone state "call" after putting in the exact number of chips to call or to say "check" every single time they don't want to bet. Are they going to start making people say "fold" when they throw their cards in too?
     
  2.  
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    Verbalize your action sounds like some utter BS. Good to hear that they aren't planning on doling out penalties, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. I can see the need for verbalization in some instances, but it's absurd to make someone state "call" after putting in the exact number of chips to call or to say "check" every single time they don't want to bet. Are they going to start making people say "fold" when they throw their cards in too?

    most redic rule ever. i saw some ppl saying fold everytime they folded pre cause they were scared of getting penalties....lool...
    Hey pall, u didnt say fold sorry but u gotta play the hand now
  3. If they want you to adapt for television they should add some of the television revenue to the prize pool
  4. WSOP is going to end up like NASCAR where it was cool back in the day but then the ultra sellout money squeezing got in the way. The poker players are already starting to look like they are wearing Nascar driver suits.
  5.  
    Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16 View Post

    If they want you to adapt for television they should add some of the television revenue to the prize pool


    i mean...if they want to adapt for television they should hire a real production crew. the ept doesn't seem to have any problems streaming their final tables, and the players don't have to verbalize any actions...

    the wsop is just all about making money, and don't want to spend the extra $$ on a real crew. just yet another example of caesar's being greedy and not caring about the players at all
  6. I guess if the wsop wants to ban talking to your opponent, who shipped all his chips to the middle...and then rescind it. They can do the same thing with having all ft plays being declared. This way nobody can say they're not doing anything for their share of the money. Remember the old days when you could tap the table to check?
  7.  
    Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16 View Post

    If they want you to adapt for television they should add some of the television revenue to the prize pool

    this
     
  8. joke city
  9. what if u cant even speak?
     
  10. that shit cray
  11. what are all you guys crying about, its not hard to say a few simple words the poker community is full of fuckin little whiney bitchs for the most part.
  12.  
    Originally Posted by sssssssivarT View Post

    what are all you guys crying about, its not hard to say a few simple words the poker community is full of fuckin little whiney bitchs for the most part.


    Although Jon may speak his mind at times n go above n beyond I can't help but take his side in this, the players have and always will be treated like insignificants unless ther a sponsored pro, like kid poker... Wp wentworths finest haha
     
  13.  
    Originally Posted by sssssssivarT View Post

    what are all you guys crying about, its not hard to say a few simple words the poker community is full of fuckin little whiney bitchs for the most part.


    for one i think it was ridiculous to bring out some crazy rule with 4 players left

    some players[ like me ] prefer letting actions speak for themselves,when i raise its obv. not really interested in saying raise ,this should be the announcers job on tv if thats what its all about
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  14.  
    Originally Posted by sssssssivarT View Post

    what are all you guys crying about, its not hard to say a few simple words the poker community is full of fuckin little whiney bitchs for the most part.

    This!
     
  15. I agree with double_kyan here..............Announcing what a given player did at a final table is the announcers job. If they really want it to be easy for the casual viewer to follow. This would also apply to those in the room watching from the rail.
  16. Isn't it commentators job to explain the hands, betting and what's going on?? I mean seriously!!!
  17. Boycott that: please start screaming...
     
 
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