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Tiltware Blasts Phil Ivey Lawsuit[ return to main articles page ]

By: Dan Cypra    [See all articles by Dan Cypra]
Published on Jun 2nd, 2011
The battle lines have been drawn. On Thursday, Tiltware, the software and marketing engine behind Full Tilt Poker, fired back at the lawsuit filed by site pro Phil Ivey (pictured). The company claims that the suit has been timed to “thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets.” Despite the hubbub, Ivey’s likeness still adorns the front of Full Tilt Poker’s homepage and the eight-time World Series of Poker (WSOP) bracelet winner continues to be listed as a member of Team Full Tilt.

The 130-word response refers to Ivey as simply “Mr. Ivey” and begins by asserting, “Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player – himself. In an effort to further enrich himself at the expense of others, Mr. Ivey appears to have timed his lawsuit to thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets.”

Ivey, who is supposedly sitting out the 2011 WSOP until Full Tilt Poker players are paid back, allegedly had an opportunity to help the site raise capital to pay back its customers, according to the statement released by Tiltware: “Mr. Ivey has been invited – and has declined – to take actions that could assist the company in [refunding players], including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site.”

What Ivey owes the site for and how much money is at stake remain to be seen. According to Ivey’s lawsuit, about $150 million is owed to Full Tilt Poker players in the United States. Ivey is seeking to get out of his Full Tilt contract, which includes a non-compete clause, and claims, “Plaintiff has been damaged by lost business opportunity, lost income, and damage to his personal and professional reputation, all in an amount that exceeds $150,000,000.”

Tiltware’s press statement ends by saying that the company does not expect the litigation to end up in court: “Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.”

Plenty of poker players and members of PocketFives.com have weighed in on Ivey’s lawsuit against Tiltware and subsequent absence from the WSOP. Among them was fellow Full Tilt Poker pro Tom Dwan, who Tweeted on Thursday, “Wowow FTP statement.” He followed up his series of w’s and o’s with, “I bet both sides have better intentions than the other realizes fwiw.”

In a multi-page thread in the Poker Community forum, one member of PocketFives.com analyzed the lawsuit, saying that Ivey is merely using frozen U.S. player funds as leverage to rescind his contract: “The lawsuit is about using the fact that FTP hasn't paid U.S. players to say that FTP has damaged Ivey's reputation and is also asking for him to not be held to the non-compete in his contract.”

The same poster summarized, “The lawsuit is not about benefiting U.S. players, it's about using the fact that U.S. players haven't been paid to (A) get damages for the damage against Ivey's reputation and (B) allow him to get out of his FTP contract/non-compete and get sponsorships elsewhere.”

Another member of the community echoed those sentiments, explaining, “I would have serious questions about the sanity of anyone who thinks Phil Ivey cares one tiny bit about anybody but Phil Ivey.”

Full Tilt Poker stopped taking real money U.S. action within a few hours of the Black Friday seizures on April 15th. To date, it has not yet started the process of cashing out U.S. players.

Meanwhile, a separate thread in the Poker Community forum centered on Dwan (pictured) making a major announcement via QuadJacks on Thursday. However, Dwan disputed the news on TwoPlusTwo, commenting, “Normally announcing someone was coming on a show when they weren't wouldn't be a very big deal... However, after Ivey's statement yesterday, and FTP's response today, for QuadJacks to say I was coming on the show, and then mention they heard I was stepping down from FTP is pretty bad form (unless they know something I don’t).”

Read the entire Phil Ivey lawsuit.

Comments

  1. Just pay up Full Tilt!!!!!
  2. wow they responded to him so quick? but they still have'nt got a reason for why they have'nt paid out as yet.. i mean wtf stars makes tilt look like a joke
  3. True nature of the MONEY BEAST rearing it's UGLY HEAD!

    GL ALL AT WSOP!
  4. "including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site." What would he owe them $ for?
  5. If FTP would have Kept players money in a separate acct, like PS did, they wouldnt be having these problems
  6. Full Tilt seems to forget that the money they owe never belonged to them. Those dollars were player deposits that should never have been used as operating income. Business 101.
  7. until they payout something they have zero credibility...
  8. Let the mud slinging begin!
  9. when somebody say, "I'm doing you a favor" I get nervous.
  10. The new poonzi scheme. Same as the old one but updated for the 21st century. Thanks FTP, you are such the douche. No offense to douche's everywhere.
  11. how can any one believe a roller, they always have excuses
  12. FTP forever means "F*#! The Players" to me.
  13.  
    Originally Posted by Jerkie93 View Post

    Just pay up Full Tilt!!!!!


    plus 1
  14. go Ivey go (Who owes USA players fulltilt or ivey? if its in his interest or not I still love the protest by sitting out. Obv full tilt cares about that not USA players $$)

    FTP really going to lose a legend? unreal...

    (FTP you really arent going to take any blame in how you've handled this?)
    Edited By: Lengthwise905 Jun 3rd, 2011 at 03:16 AM
  15. Wow, how long did it take to get a response from ftp after the initial 4/15 events? But yet within hours of this business, they are quick to respond with these hateful, personal attacks to discredit Ivey? I don't know Ivey personally, and I don't have a substantial amount locked up on ftp, but don't the innocent usually sit calmly idly by, waiting for the truth to speak for their actions? Regardless of how everything really went down, I think this makes ftp look worse. But what the fuck do I know, I'm just another tokin pothead crying myself to sleep every night...... Thanks DOJ, I'm sure this is exactly what our founders had in mind when they came to America looking for religous freedom, MAKE MONEY OFF OF EVERYTHING.
  16. I guess FTP didn't have time to address the fact that they have misappropriated player funds and failed to conduct an honest business enterprise. Maybe the DOJ could spend some time addressing that issue instead of the mundane fact that our money was shipped to and from the gaming sites.
  17. ftp feels the need to blast Ivey and blame him for wasting time and saying that this will set them back in paying the players-just more bs and who knows if Ivey cares about others in the US, but at least someone is fighting back and its nice to know that a big name player is doing something
     
  18. agreed....regardless of if ivey's motatives are self serving or not, the outcome of him holding out helps usa players get fulltilt's attention......regardless of if he cares or not

    oh yea i bet he cares more than they do

    standard countersuit tactic
    Edited By: Lengthwise905 Jun 5th, 2011 at 02:02 AM
  19. I peed next to phil ivey one time. True story.
 
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