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U.S. Government in Possession of Absolute Poker Software[ return to main articles page ]

By: Dan Katz    [See all articles by Dan Katz]
Published on Sep 25th, 2012
Three more documents were filed on Friday in the ongoing Black Friday case. Whereas much of the case in recent months has centered on Full Tilt Poker and, to a lesser extent PokerStars, these particular documents focused on the largely ignored third leg of the wobbly stool, Absolute Poker.

Earlier this month, we posted an article here on PocketFives about how a Portuguese group that allegedly owns the assets of Absolute Poker, Avoine-Servico de Consultadoria e Marketing (Avoine), contested the seizure of said assets by the U.S. Department of Justice. Jason Cowley, the attorney representing the U.S. DOJ, rebutted Avoine’s claims, citing the shady chain of ownership of the poker room over the years as well as a previous statement by Avoine that it had no involvement with Absolute.

On Friday, Cowley filed a Reply Memorandum of Law to further support the Government’s order for settlement of the case and for the interlocutory sale of Absolute's assets. Before we continue, it should be explained that an interlocutory sale is one made when the assets at hand are at risk of devaluation and is often allowed before a case is settled.

In the Memorandum, Cowley stated that the longer Absolute Poker’s assets sit around, the more they will deteriorate in value. Customer lists become less valuable as time goes by because customer data becomes out-of-date, more and more players stop playing poker, and the players lose touch with the Absolute brand. The software is also losing value because it has gone unused for more than a year and no updates have been made during that time. As such, an interlocutory sale is a valid action.

Cowley also noted that Avoine argued the Government does not have ownership of Absolute Poker’s software and therefore should not be allowed to sell its assets. To the contrary, the Government showed that last week, it received the software from Quad Dimensions, Inc., the company that developed and maintained Absolute Poker’s software.

As part of its evidence, the U.S. Government presented a letter from Young Jae Lee, CEO of Quad Dimensions. In it, Lee confirmed he gave the software, including the client’s source code, to the U.S. Government. He also signed away all claims to the software, agreed not to give any copies to anyone without the permission of the Government, and agreed to delete any copies he has if the Government asks him to do so.

What it all boils down to is that the U.S Government sees an interlocutory sale of Absolute Poker’s assets as completely justified, as it feels it needs to sell as quickly as possible in order to maximize its return and it has proper claim to those assets. No matter the argument that Avoine puts forth, the Government seems to have a counter.

The proceeds from an interlocutory sale would go toward settling the Black Friday lawsuit against Absolute Poker. The former popular online poker room is staring at upwards of $100 million in fines and settlement costs.

Comments

  1. Pay up MFer's!
     
  2. fml i had 10x as much on UB as on FTP..... hell send me a 12 pack of coors and well call it even
  3. Stoopid!!!
    Why they keep thinking this is worth something? Its worth $199....c;mon
    The money is long gone=players long gone
    Attn: government assholes!!! quit wasting money on this...Its a f-kn flash drive with a game on it..so what...plug it in for you'all there in your office and play amongst yourselves...O, and beware of the 73 superusers from portugal who are waiting for you...
    Assets? you mean the 4 at&t telephones, and the box of hats?
    Edited By: tripseekerx Sep 26th, 2012 at 01:09 AM
  4. If Quad claims to own it, why don't they repay all the players?
  5.  
    Originally Posted by trub-luffer View Post

    If Quad claims to own it, why don't they repay all the players?

    They simply are a development company who owns the source code to AP's software. They do not receive any bit of company revenue. In fact, when black friday hit, Quad was owed a very large sum of money for software modifications that the AP owners never paid.
     
  6. obv not one word about players recieving anything, any money has to go towards fines ... fk the fines what about us players? a lot of us have been hurt pretty bad financially w this and no one gives a ** .. one big joke!
    Edited By: xxCelticFCxx Sep 26th, 2012 at 09:07 AM
  7. If they paid back players on UB it would change my life...one can only wait
     
  8.  
    Originally Posted by xxCelticFCxx View Post

    obv not one word about players recieving anything, any money has to go towards fines ... fk the fines what about us players? a lot of us have been hurt pretty bad financially w this and no one gives a ** .. one big joke!

    I think a lot of people care, a lot. I just don't think there actually is any money to pay out. I'm in your boat, fucked pretty hard by what happened there. But realistically not sure where the money is going to come from to pay you, me or anyone else
     
  9. its game over as far as im concerned, software is worth very little when you consider ongame could not be sold, also the database was hacked and sold off, thats why people were getting junk mail on their ub email addresses
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  10. The US Government needs a few more HUNDRED MILLION to WASTE!!!

    They can't WASTE enough!!!
  11.  
    Originally Posted by xxCelticFCxx View Post

    obv not one word about players recieving anything, any money has to go towards fines ... fk the fines what about us players? a lot of us have been hurt pretty bad financially w this and no one gives a ** .. one big joke!

    I truly have to agree with you on this one.......i think up to now the Gov't has done enough damage already and they need to stop this BS....the Gov't is F***king with peoples lives and to me the Gov't doesn't give a shit..enough is enough!!!!!!.....its funny when it comes to election time the Gov't is your friend all of a sudden.....and then when they get elected they stab you in the back not only once but over and over again......hey Mr. Gov't why don't you use some of your valuable time and go after the real crooks.....like the former FTP owners...huh?.....this is a bunch of sick BS!!!
  12. To what extent had the DOJ found and arrested the principals and insiders at UB and or AP. How hard is it to locate Annie or Phil? Perhaps this is what the administration calls redistribution of income.
 
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