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U.S. Government Seeking Claims Administrators for Full Tilt Repayments[ return to main articles page ]

By: Dan Katz    [See all articles by Dan Katz]
Published on Aug 14th, 2012
The United States Government is searching for people who can help pay back the multitude of Full Tilt customers in the U.S. who have been dreaming of the eventual return of their funds. The money is all available thanks to the sale of Full Tilt to PokerStars, which was finalized last week. What the DOJ is looking for is a Claims Administrator to facilitate the process of payments to all of the victims of Full Tilt.

A formal job listing was posted recently on the employment section of the United States Attorney’s Office (USAO) for the Southern District of New York’s website for the Claims Administrator position.

As an introduction to the posting, the USAO explained that “in some instances, depending on the circumstances and exigencies of the case, the United States Attorney’s Office will solicit applications” for positions such as claims administrators, monitors, receivers, and special masters. Essentially, the USAO hires independent contractors to help it with some cases, and the Full Tilt matter is one such case.

In the paragraph of the Claims Administrator posting specific to the role at hand, the USAO explains that about $159 million is “immediately available for distribution via the remission process.” The Claims Administrator is needed to “design and execute a process to solicit, receive, and evaluate claims, and to process payments, for losses incurred by U.S. victims.”

The person or persons contracted need to go through records from Full Tilt Poker and obtain and evaluate any information available from customers to determine how much money to distribute.

In the Claims Administrator application, applicants must provide the names of everyone that will participate in the claims process and list all contact each individual and their relatives have had with Full Tilt, PokerStars, Absolute Poker, or any other online gambling company.

Any possible conflicts of interest when it comes to the relationship of each individual with any online poker or gambling firm must also be detailed. The USAO is specifically looking for reasons why an applicant might not be able to maintain independence, citing things like “financial relationships, stock ownership, or prior consummated or contemplated business transactions” between the individuals and the gaming companies.

Of course, as one would expect, the USAO also wants to know about the applicant’s qualifications to actually conduct claims administration. Applications will be reviewed by Sharon Levin, Chief of the Asset Forfeiture Unit of the USAO for the Southern District of New York. Applications are due August 31.

The money to repay Full Tilt customers comes from PokerStars, which acquired the assets of Full Tilt Poker several days go. The deal was part of an agreement with PokerStars, Full Tilt, and the U.S. Department of Justice that saw PokerStars forfeit $547 million to the DOJ, $225 million of which was paid last week. The DOJ is only allowing PokerStars to repay “rest of the world” customers, while the U.S. Government is taking care of the remission process for players in the United States. No details have been revealed as to what that process will actually entail.

In the meantime, PokerStars is working on the re-launch of Full Tilt Poker, with plans to get its former rival up and running by November 6. Full Tilt will operate as its own brand with its own software and promotions. Stay tuned to PocketFives for the latest Full Tilt news.

Comments

  1. dear government,
    save yourself a lot of overhead cost. find the balance of an individual's account, then "pay that man his money." repeat this until you're done.
    Edited By: DawnSoap Aug 14th, 2012 at 11:32 PM
  2. I'm going to apply, I have years of experience in paying out poker players
  3. Just let stars do it, I trust them a lot more.
  4.  
    Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16 View Post

    I'm going to apply, I have years of experience in paying out poker players

    First off, ^ that's funny. Second, if the DOJ is ready to hire random people or businesses off the street to pay us back our money, why wouldn't they just let Stars do it for free? Did they want to take credit for this that badly? I mean, the only reason we're getting our money back is because Stars decided buying FT and all of it's baggage was a good business decision.
     
  5. Ya, there gonna have a whole big shindig with this..."were gonna have to decorate the gawddam office first..."
    "We need a vehicle, might as well go with a town car"
    "We need a staff, staff that can hire and set up field offices" "We need the fricken carpets cleaned, it smells like open a-hole and hot garbage in here!!"
    "Of coarse we'll need our own checks printed up right? who do we call for that? " prolly a two week wait just on that...
    "Can Ethel handle the phones on her own?, do we even have jacks in the office?" "can I pay myself $110, 000 salary?"

    I could go on and on and be dam near realistic..might reach the deep end of the 90 day window..
  6. I wonder where the money is coming from to pay the people the govt. is going to hire? I just don't understand why the govt. didn't allow Stars to handle this. Very simple process. Get the FT records, verify the account status, send the player his money. Nope, that would be too easy. Seems to me that this will just be a way for the govt. to find out who is requesting the funds, then they'll use that to go back and see if they claimed previous withdrawals on their taxes. jmho
  7.  
    Originally Posted by DeaconMike View Post

    .....
    Seems to me that this will just be a way for the govt. to find out who is requesting the funds, then they'll use that to go back and see if they claimed previous withdrawals on their taxes. jmho

    Yikes! Hey now, let them figure that shit out on their own. Besides it'll take atleast 2 years.
  8. Does anyone know if you owe taxes on money you won but eventually lost it in cash games or in vegas playing to high of limit. Also, has any americans been able to facilitate cashouts from carbon poker. Just curious to know before putting any more of my limited money on there.
     
  9.  
    Originally Posted by ChicagoKid91 View Post

    Also, has any americans been able to facilitate cashouts from carbon poker. Just curious to know before putting any more of my limited money on there.

    There is a whole thread devoted to deposits and cashouts on Carbon poker. You can find it by searching in the forums.
     
  10.  
    Originally Posted by the_schmenx View Post

    Just let stars do it, I trust them a lot more.

    Yup i have been sayin this all along but the so called "smart" government wants to tackle this venture themselves.....the Gov't has no idea what kind of headaches they are going to encounter.....why Mr. Government...why ohh why are you stressing out your people?.... when all you need to do is let Stars take care of it ..and they can do it all with a flick of a switch......no headaches, no mistakes, don't have to wait till 2013....unless Mr. Government thinks that perhaps Stars will screw them over......first of all they have no reason to play unfair as they would rather work with you rather than against you.....i don't know why Mr. Government is not listening to the people....i just don't get it.....well the only reason i can think of is to cut down on the unemployment rate?...but this is stupid as well!!!!
    You know i'm no rocket scientist but before you hire anyone from the alley to do it for you....let Stars submit a proposal and no matter what the price just give it to them and get it over with already!!!....
    Edited By: K5VERB Aug 15th, 2012 at 08:56 AM
  11. He won it, straight up. Pay that man his monies!
     
  12. i think its disgusting how all you yankies gambled illegally and didnt pay any taxes, you all sound like a bunch of degens. you guys are always the first to say how great america is, yet always complain about it, pay uncle sam what you owe him and go back to the play money tables...heheh
     
  13. What I'm confused by is why anyone would be confused by why the gov't/doj wants to handle the repayment.

    Keep in mind, in their eyes, we are all victims. So naturally they wanna be the heros in all of this. They busted the bad guys. They took their money and slapped their pee pee. They brokered the deal between Stars and FTP. And now they will be the ones to help us poor victims to our feet, provide us with "justice" and nurse us back to health.
     
  14. "As an introduction to the posting, the USAO explained that “in some instances, depending on the circumstances and exigencies of the case, the United States Attorney’s Office will solicit applications” for positions such as claims administrators, monitors, receivers, and special masters."

    "Special Masters" FTW
    Where do I apply?
  15.  
    Originally Posted by ChicagoKid91 View Post

    Does anyone know if you owe taxes on money you won but eventually lost it in cash games or in vegas playing to high of limit. Also, has any americans been able to facilitate cashouts from carbon poker. Just curious to know before putting any more of my limited money on there.


    You really need to speak with an accountant about this kind of stuff. We feel strongly here that taking advice in the forums about how to handle your taxes is dangerous, to say the least
     
  16.  
    Originally Posted by Ninemil View Post

    He won it, straight up. Pay that man his monies!





    YOU HAD Z MONSTAHH, DE FUCK DID YOU LAY THAT DOWN!!!
    Edited By: cocoa_butter111 Aug 15th, 2012 at 04:29 PM
     
  17.  
    Originally Posted by K5VERB View Post

    Yup i have been sayin this all along but the so called "smart" government wants to tackle this venture themselves.....the Gov't has no idea what kind of headaches they are going to encounter.....why Mr. Government...why ohh why are you stressing out your people?.... when all you need to do is let Stars take care of it ..and they can do it all with a flick of a switch......no headaches, no mistakes, don't have to wait till 2013....unless Mr. Government thinks that perhaps Stars will screw them over......first of all they have no reason to play unfair as they would rather work with you rather than against you.....i don't know why Mr. Government is not listening to the people....i just don't get it.....well the only reason i can think of is to cut down on the unemployment rate?...but this is stupid as well!!!!
    You know i'm no rocket scientist but before you hire anyone from the alley to do it for you....let Stars submit a proposal and no matter what the price just give it to them and get it over with already!!!....


    I mean when have they ever???
     
  18.  
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    You really need to speak with an accountant about this kind of stuff. We feel strongly here that taking advice in the forums about how to handle your taxes is dangerous, to say the least

    Hearing advice and actually applying what random people say is two different things, i guess i wont ask any questions that are important to me that are related to or come from poker. Cause its so dangerous. To be honest i could really give two shits, was just curious thats all. Going to go talk to an accountant about money i lost HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
     
  19. FWIW this is pretty standard process for distributing funds that are tied up in a "ponzi scheme". This happened to me once before, there needs to be a thrid-party administrator to sort through who is owed what. and Yes that third-party administrator traditionally gets paid out of the total pool of money. In the ponzi-scheme I was involved in 5 years ago I ended up to get back about 80% of my money but I have a feeling that since this was a "deal", they (DOJ,pokerstars) hopefully allotted extra money that is intended to pay the third-party administrator...
  20.  
    Originally Posted by ChicagoKid91 View Post

    Hearing advice and actually applying what random people say is two different things, i guess i wont ask any questions that are important to me that are related to or come from poker. Cause its so dangerous. To be honest i could really give two shits, was just curious thats all. Going to go talk to an accountant about money i lost HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

    I don't mean to criticize at all. I generally respond like that in the forums when people ask for tax advice because I don't want people to get screwed over as a result of something they read here. Just want to make sure our general visitor population understands that forum advice is no substitute for professional advice on taxes. Sorry if I offended you
     
 
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