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WSOP Loosening Stance on Table Chatter, Player Celebration[ return to main articles page ]

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Published on May 8th, 2012
In a conference call with members of the media on Tuesday, World Series of Poker (WSOP) officials outlined major changes to the rules regarding table chatter and player celebration. The WSOP crew pointed out several times that, due in part to imposed restrictions, players had been forced into silence the table, not able to discuss a hand in progress or get excited about a win.

WSOP Tournament Director Jack Effel, who has apparently been working out in earnest ahead of the 2012 WSOP, told the media that players will now be allowed to discuss the contents of their hand while the action is still going on: "You can say whatever you want about the contents of your hand and disclose the contents of your hand as long as you don't show your cards and as long as no other player in a hand has a decision to make. If no other player in the hand has a decision to make, you can speak freely."

Effel shared the back-story to the rule change: "We’d like to see more players talk at the table because we feel it's an integral part of the game… If a player is all-in and there's no one left to act, you can say, 'I have two aces and a flush draw. I know I have you beat.' Obviously, there will be errors, but we're trying to get you guys to loosen up a bit and talk. We still want to protect against soft play and collusion."

If you've watched the live broadcasts of the WSOP on ESPN or online, then you know players have been largely reticent in recent years, perhaps in part due to the WSOP's regulations. "We stream these events to showcase poker's best and what we see are players sitting in their shells," Effel (pictured) observed. "We've made it to where it's a little more open by extending the talking strategy, but we're asking for players who make the streamed or televised tables to verbally declare their actions and the amounts of them so we can get a little more talking at the table."

WSOP Executive Director Ty Stewart elaborated that poker on television becoming more entertaining is a side benefit of allowing players to banter: "We've tightened poker up so much that players are afraid to use verbal strategy to out-man their opponents, which has been integral to poker. It takes poker back to its fundamental basis and its strategic intent. As a result, you get good TV."

Also changing in 2012 is the WSOP's stance on excessive celebration, which it instituted following the antics of Hevad RaiNKhAN Khan (pictured) in 2007. Effel relayed, "We feel we went a little extreme with Hevad Khan jumping and having outbursts. We put a rule in place that prevented players from enjoying their success and celebrating when they won a hand. It's not a problem to celebrate a hand. It's okay to let that out. We don't feel it's okay to be disruptive, though, but we've rewritten the rule to say we want you to celebrate, just don't be crazy. It's up to our discretion."

Stewart joked, "No Tournament Director at the WSOP should be confused with Paul Bart: Mall Cop. We want to have an authentic experience where people are excited about winning unthinkable money. They should be able to have excitement. There were cases last year where celebrations were penalized. A poker room isn't a church. We just think we need to set the tone to bring some of the fun back."

ESPN plans to broadcast three WSOP tournaments this year: the Main Event, the $1 million buy-in Big One for One Drop, and the WSOP Circuit National Championship. The final tables of the One Big One and Main Event will air live on a 15-minute delay, with the latter taking place on October 30th. The Main Event final table will feature hole cards shown for every player in every hand.

Stay tuned to PocketFives for the latest WSOP news.

Comments

  1. Good decisions imo.
  2.  
    Originally Posted by wackyJaxon View Post

    Good decisions imo.

    +1.

    As long as they dont Jamie Gold it...
     
  3. Hope Candio doesn't read this
  4. Thank god! Listening to people play with their chips gets annoying after awhile!
  5. Clarification please?
    Someone has put you all in, no one else is in hand, you can talk?
    Edited By: G2thV May 9th, 2012 at 12:25 AM
  6.  
    Originally Posted by DAT612 View Post

    Hope Candio doesn't read this

    Hope that if those SCUMBAGS who stole money or cheated or owe money to FTP get to be pointed out and reminded of their unlawful actions, especially if they receive a bad beat and the winner
    celebrates and all others feel free to comment also that what goes around comes around.
  7. I wonder if they got negreanu to write the new rule for them
  8.  
    Originally Posted by G2thV View Post

    Clarification please?
    Someone has put you all in, no one else is in hand, you can talk?

    In short...hell yeah! Make that shipper reveal something.
  9. Thank god. It was getting ridiculous where some dealers would scold you for even opening your mouth at the table.
     
  10. Glad they listened to me.. was playing at WSOP St. Louis..and called over the floor and said that was ridiculous rule not being able to talk heads up. Told them that was what poker was all about. Told them that was how the game became popular. Also told them they take the excitement out of playing not being able to celebrate. Hey, sure I am not the only one..glad they started to listen.
  11.  
    Originally Posted by Rounder Rick View Post

    Glad they listened to me.. was playing at WSOP St. Louis..and called over the floor and said that was ridiculous rule not being able to talk heads up. Told them that was what poker was all about. Told them that was how the game became popular. Also told them they take the excitement out of playing not being able to celebrate. Hey, sure I am not the only one..glad they started to listen.


    looks like u did it, the poker community thanks you
  12.  
    Originally Posted by Rounder Rick View Post

    Glad they listened to me.. was playing at WSOP St. Louis..and called over the floor and said that was ridiculous rule not being able to talk heads up. Told them that was what poker was all about. Told them that was how the game became popular. Also told them they take the excitement out of playing not being able to celebrate. Hey, sure I am not the only one..glad they started to listen.


    Yes thank you bunches
  13. Glad they are doing this but am I the only one that read this article that saw Paul Bart Mall Cop and went ???????????????????
  14. Still would be legit to listen to your music after you make the money though.
     1
  15. so you can speak freely about your hand after you have folded and were HU, been awarded the pot or are facing an all in last to act?
    big woop

    "If no other player in the hand has a decision to make, you can speak freely."

    prob just a poorly worded rule, but the way this reads to me, basically, you can only speak when there is no pot being played...LOL
    Edited By: hitthenuts May 9th, 2012 at 05:03 PM
  16. Good changes...so the execs decided that it hurt tv viewership by having 9 silent guys playing poker.
  17. yeah i don't even get what's being said here... You can talk unless someone has a decision to make in the hand?? What does that even mean?
  18. basically anytime you're heads up in a pot you can talk... just you're not allowed to talk and reveal your hand when there are multiple opponents in the pot. for instance on the flop there are 3 players, player A bets first, hes not allowed to talk about his hand at this point, player b then folds... now player A can talk to player C about his contents of his hand if he wishes.
     
  19.  
    Originally Posted by Wretchy View Post

    basically anytime you're heads up in a pot you can talk... just you're not allowed to talk and reveal your hand when there are multiple opponents in the pot. for instance on the flop there are 3 players, player A bets first, hes not allowed to talk about his hand at this point, player b then folds... now player A can talk to player C about his contents of his hand if he wishes.


    that makes sense to me, but isn't what the rule says...


    If you are HU, you have an opponent which means another player has a decision they have yet to make. "If no other player in the hand has a decision to make"
    kind of stupid, seeing as there is ALWAYS another player when a hand is being played, lol.

    I hope it is just a poorly worded or misquoted rule, because if not, its just terrible.
  20. FINALLY!!..im so sick of getting yelled at by the dealers for talking....stoked about this summer!!
     
 
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