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Relationships and Poker

By dtools22 - Nov 16 2009, 12:15 PM

Well, this past week was probably one of the worst for me in a few years.  Poker wise just hit some rough spots.  I managed to have a few really crappy cash game sessions, dragging myself down around $460.  The tournament this weekend didn't go as I was hoping.  I made a mistake that cost me about 1/3 of my stack then got it in the next hand JJ v AA and went from an above average stack to out the door.  These things happen though and part of playing this game is learning how and when to roll with the punches, but I was smashed in the face by something I just never saw coming.  My girlfriend of 5 years, someone who I was openly talking about marrying in the next year or so, called me over the phone and told me she did not want to live with a poker player and ended our relationship.

Before you read any further I will warn you, this is going to be a sob story blog and I'm really depressed so levity should not be expected.  This has been a conflict for a few years now.  I've been trying to become a professional poker player since I was 16 years old.  Even further back than that I was playing cards on the kitchen table with my mother just passing time as she did with her sisters when she was growing up.  I met my now ex-girlfriend in highschool.  We were in a ton of the same classes together and eventually started going out during Junior year.  In a somewhat embarassing admission, she is as of this blog post the only woman I've ever slept with (had to throw you guys at least one bone here).  We had been going out pretty steadily since then, with some troubles freshman year of college but we ended up back together sortly there after.  She has been around to see my struggles playing cards, to see me grinding $2.25 SNGs and flipping out over bad beats.  I've grown up a lot since then but my poker ambitions have only grown since our relationship began.  I've been studying the game, logging the hours, asking for poker books for Christmas, everything you could imagine.

She has been around for all of that, but only until recently there was no serious consideration to turning pro.  I was not able to even pay rent on a regular basis during this time period so earning a living was simply not possible.  Then came the big score, chooping the $400NLHE HU for $50,272.  She was stunned and thrilled to hear the news.  I drove back to Boston to see her and we went out with some friends to celebrate.  I was on cloud nine, it was everything I wanted.  I could now graduate, live with my girlfriend, play poker both online and live, and "live happily ever after."  Ok so I may be going a little overboard but I felt absolutely invincible.  A week later she brought up the question about job searching and I said I had no intention to.  We started to fight on and off about this over the next few weeks culminating when we were out to dinner.

I brought up the idea of wanting to buy a condo rather than rent an apartment to my ex before and her sentiment was, "I'm not buying property with you unless we get married."  That wasn't a deal breaker for me.  I know I'm only 22 but I'm very confident in what I want, and I knew I wanted to be with her.  To me the condo was only an investment to be made, not a lock down future home.  I just wanted to buy a place so that when I'm done making payments I own the property, investing rather than renting was how I looked at it.  Flash forward to that night at dinner I brought up the idea of my buying the place and having roommates, looking back wasn't that well thought out but I didn't mean anything by this.  She said, "You'd rather get roommates than just man up."  I understand her point but again it's not what I meant.  My responce was, "I have no problem manning up, but you have to understand that I'm a poker player and that 5 years down the line there can't be an ultimatum where you tell me I need to stop playing poker or you'll leave me."

I made that statement with a very specific scenario in mind.  I was thinking that if I am successful and I win several hundreds of thousands I don't want to be put into a shitty spot where my now wife says I have to quit or we would get a divorce and suddenly 1/2 of my winnings are gone along with my house and custody of any children at that point.  Apparently that statement stuck with her and on Friday this past week I got a phone call saying she couldn't be with a poker player and that it was over.  After 5 years of being with this woman, all the effort and sacrafice, I was dumped over the phone because I won $50K.

I've spent the past couple of nights drinking and buying random people drinks at bars.  This is a new low point for me personally since my grandparents passed away in 2007.  I know a lot of you are thinking something along the lines of, "She's not worth it man, she doesn't accept who you are and that's not going to change.  Better it happens now than later."  While sound logic, that doesn't offer much consolation.  I always thought that once I proved her wrong, everything else would just fall back into place but sadly it just doesn't work like that.  I was hit completely by surprise here and it hurts, badly.  That being said there's nothing left to do accept keep moving forward and working on my new list of poker goals.  I can't change her mind, but I can certainly prove to her and everyone else that doesn't believe in me that I can and will do this.  When I'm on ESPN, Leno, Letterman, hell even Larry King Live (I know I'm reaching here) they'll all know how big a mistake they made to doubt me.  They should have stuck by me and given me the chance.  Nothing left to do now but put my head down and move on.  This will get worse before it gets better, but I'll do what I have to to move on.

Comments

sgildea25 

sgildea25 said:

Nice playing with you this weekend and hearing this story first-hand at the Burger Joint (or whatever the hell the name of that place was).

You'll bounce back dude. Find some smokeshow that understands your lifestyle as a poker player.

November 16, 2009 1:33 PM
BlueRenegade 

BlueRenegade said:

Hey D,

I don't know you, but I've been there and I feel for you.  Yes, it will get worse before it gets better.  Hang in there, and if you play any poker, be EXTRA aware of your state of mind.  Be particularly careful about your bankroll, and don't make any big life decisions (like buying a condo) until you are through the rough patch.  You may be tempted to jump up limits or something to try for a big score to prove her wrong or prove yourself right--DON'T.  Be conservative.  You're liable to have trouble concentrating, get put on tilt more easily, etc.  Just be aware of yourself.

Hang in there, man.  That's a hell of a thing, to have to choose between the girl of your dreams or the job of your dreams.  But you gotta do what you think is right for you and your own future.

Peace,

Blue

November 16, 2009 2:25 PM
dtools22 

dtools22 said:

I think I'm actually going to take the next week completely off.  I would much rather keep running up $50 bar tabs for a few days than dump more money in a poker game.  I need some time to get my head back on straight.  Also might be a good idea to hang with people rather than sit around by myself and play cards online.

November 16, 2009 2:48 PM
VXA809 

VXA809 said:

D,

I have been following your blog for a couple of months now. I am new to pocketfives and online poker, but play or played a lot of live poker. After i graduated from college (Dec 2008) I left for Vegas to play live and build a roll. I was out there for a month and left my girlfriend of 5 years, but we remained together. After the month, i came home with 5x more money than i went with, won a couple live tournies, and killed cash games. When i got back, she said i had to choose her or poker, i chose her and we are now married. I work 9-5 and play online MAYBE 3 hours a week. I miss playing poker but am very happy with my life. I know that if i would have made a different decision my life would be completely different.

Girls just dont understand that poker isnt 100% gambling. Just remember dude, do what makes you happy and never give up on your dreams. You have find what makes you the happiest and go that route. GL

Peace

November 16, 2009 2:51 PM
dtools22 

dtools22 said:

It's just sad I can't have this both ways.  I'm in a position where I have spent the last 4 years persuing nothing outside of a career in poker.  Even if I were to retire and choose her, I have no where to start.  Sure I'll have a degree at year's end but most of my friends who graduated are working temp jobs for little pay or at Starbucks.  I simply can't choose to dump poker, I would be really putting a tremendous strain on both my relationship and my personal well being and quality of life.

I've work for 4 years of my life to reach this dream and now I'm just 6 months of school from being able to live that dream on a small scale.  I just wish I could have brought her along for the ride is all.

November 16, 2009 3:10 PM
VXA809 

VXA809 said:

I hear where you are coming from. I spent all my college career playing 1/2-2/5 NL home games 3-4 nights  a week building a roll. Then once i graduated went to Vegas and built it enough to start playing for a living. It sucks you cant have it both ways. But i just wanted to tell you my story. I am still very well involved with poker as i play a little and have friends who are pros. I play with Carter Phillips (bdybldngpkr) when he is in Charlotte and learn from him. I just put in so little volume that i cant play for a living with my job. But if i had a 50k score, i know she would let me try it full time again. Like i said man, its tough and i feel for ya.

Ill leave you with a quote

"You'll always lose money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money."

Women come and go, it hurts, but everything happens for a reason

November 16, 2009 3:25 PM
dtools22 

dtools22 said:

But wait...didn't I lose my woman chasing money?  Haha point taken sir and I appreciate the story.  Every little bit to help me move along will help in some way I'm sure.  I do feel better know that people reading this actually do feel compelled enough to say something.

November 16, 2009 3:37 PM
TheRaider 

TheRaider said:

After winning 50K i doubt it was about specifically poker.

Sounds a bit more like she thinks you don't want commit/she doesn't want to commit.

On a side note, i think you should stick to mtt's mainly.

On a second side note, you should make a blank blog, because it is always your second newest showing.

November 17, 2009 3:03 AM
joeschmo 

joeschmo said:

5 years and she ended it on the phone? That sucks man.

Sounds like your gf is looking for stability/ guaranted income if the relationship is to go further. Some woman are not willing to leave things up to chance. Some are though. If poker is not something you would choose over her then shes prob not the one for you anyways.

Gl on your goal of becoming a pro . Its awesome you already hit a 50K score but as you know theres no guaranted $ in poker. Nice to have a career to fall back on if you ever need it.

November 17, 2009 11:33 AM
hawgfarmer 

hawgfarmer said:

hey bro we talk every once and a while on aim but nothin like this...from personal experience i can say that girls are so confusing. i can almost guarantee she does not want this but shes is at a point where she doesnt know where the two of you will be in the long term. woman are much more concerned about the security than thinking about the short term and living day by day. i believe that both of you should definately talk more about it and try to work something out...unless she is completely opposed to that. it just sucks not having closure about these type of things so i would definately try to face to face conversation about what has happened and how heartbroken you are. she might not be looking for your pity but wheres the risk in trying? best of luck to you man chat with me on aim if u need anything

November 17, 2009 4:41 PM
abakus73 

abakus73 said:

hey dtools sad to hear this but I think you invested so much of your power into that dream that it sometimes takes victims :-(

November 18, 2009 3:35 AM
dtools22 

dtools22 said:

Sadly abakus73 I think you might be right.  I don't know what I'm really planning on doing from here but I know for sure that I don't want to end up sitting around feeling sorry for myself.

November 18, 2009 7:11 PM
rocket5 

rocket5 said:

dtools22. Congrats on your score man.

Please do not take this the wrong way but you have to understand that the lifestyle you choose is not for everyone. Money changes people. A 50k score is awesome and helps in so many ways obviously but it does not solve anything except for short term problems. Your girl can't rely on you making a 50k score once every few months.

How did you plan on buying this condo anyway? The 50k you won is really 40k at best afer taxes which I am assuming is looking more like 25k after spending spree as I type this. If it was me it would probabaly look more like 10 to 15k :)

Again congrats on your score man and I am not trying to discourage you from playing poker for a living at all. Do what you feel is best for you. I am very sorry to hear about you breaking up with your girl after 5 years but you are young and it could be a blessing in disguise at 22. Who knows you may even end up back together.

Just take a step back and look at the situation from her point of view. You have changed in the last month whether you know it or not. You have probably been very generous to her and your "friends." You can now justify your poker trips and up and leaving whenever you want for days at a time while she carries on with "normal" life. Just because you broke up it doesn't mean it's over I am sure she still cares very much about you. Just remember it's not only about YOU when you are in a relationship.

Hope everything works out for you I really do. Take it from someone who won a sizable chunk at an early age. If you ever go near busto again you will find out who your true friends are quickly after. Now bink another tourney and remember the golden rule....

New pussy cures a broken heart :)

GL.

November 20, 2009 5:36 AM
jbravo18 

jbravo18 said:

I definitely agree with the idea of taking a week off. Emotional strain is never good for poker, decision making will definitely be off kilter. Go out and be a regular person for a week and let your favorite alcoholic beverage be your friend. Spend some time with some friends, and try to focus on the things in your life that make you happy. Don't get back to the game until you feel ready. My heart pours out to you. While I don't have the same story, I can definitely empathize.  

November 20, 2009 6:22 AM
peldini 

peldini said:

sounds like she had her mind made up about this already and it just needed a catalyst to push it out into the open.  I know it stings but this was going to happen sooner or later.

November 20, 2009 2:06 PM
pdiddy100 

pdiddy100 said:

i honestly just read this to see if you mentioned your "big score" again, either way good luck with everything.

November 20, 2009 3:58 PM
felipebball 

felipebball said:

clearly she is leveling you about the poker playing and is really upset you didn't get her a nice enough gift with the winnings lol jk man, i dont' think anyone asked it, so i will, would u trade the 50k score for the girl, would you rather never won the tourny and still all be cool with the girl...i think either way you answer it, you have your answer on what u should do

November 20, 2009 7:21 PM
bonflizubi 

bonflizubi said:

dtools-

i think everyone has missed the point so far.  When you were grinding some small moneys and working with the goal of becoming a poker pro, it is quite likely that she had an expectation that graduation would come, and you'd have to get a job.   And that it was highly unlikely you'd really end up trying/being able to try poker as a profession.

So, you binked a tourney and now you decide you are going pro and not going to get a job.  

Look at it from her perspective for a minute:  she never expected it to really turn out that way, yet here you are making it a reality.  This forces her to really lay it on the line about what she wants/expects.  And that's not the direction you are heading.   You aren't even trying to start out a career in case the *profession* doesn't work out in a few years.  (Which would be at least a gesture of good faith towards her.)

And finally, not trying to hate here, as the situation does really suck, but don't let one big tourney bink go to your head.   Bink 2 or 3 more before you decide you are going pro.  1 does not all of a sudden make you gods gift to poker. (I know this personally- I binked bigger then you did, and it didn't mean my ability level jumped that day.  It certainly didn't make me a *pro* all of a sudden.)

All said, i understand you want to follow your dream, but try and evaluate things objectively - apart from the score.  And see if you really have enough fallbacks and made the right choice....

Get the post- graduation job as a failsafe.  

November 20, 2009 8:53 PM
darkhawk-200 

darkhawk-200 said:

couple of things, it seems you did little to convince her about the good qualities of seriously dating a poker player. 2nd your statement about 5 years down the line blah blah blah, u forced her to make a decision by saying what you said, and you knew that she wasn't for being with someone whose a professional poker player right now.

Your scenario is about her divorcing you for half your money, blah blah, is a really self-centered way to think about things.

Sorry for not sugar coating everything, but it seems like you are too into becoming a professional poker player, and didn't give much thought on how to maintain a healthy relationship, relationships are about compromises.

If in fact you think, she'll never accept dating a poker player, then in that situation, by breaking up with you, she's doing you and her a favor.

November 23, 2009 2:49 AM
apresthus 

apresthus said:

I am in the spot you are in regards to having a girlfriend that isnt to happy about poker, she hasnt dumped me (yet) but i understand your pain man. You should follow your dreams though, you will eventually meet the girl that accepts what you do and everything it brings with it, even tho it sucks now. Keep ya head up man! Good luck with life and the virtual and real felt.

-Alex

November 23, 2009 6:32 AM

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