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10k buy in. Djk hand....value flop checkshoveaments

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  1. feltmelter feltmelter is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 3:48am)

    pokerstars Game #72408519168: Tournament #475714224, $10000+$300 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (350/700) - 2011/12/18 22:40:14 ET
    Table '475714224 17' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: SkaiWalkurrr (85442 in chips)
    Seat 2: raidalot (8644 in chips)
    Seat 3: Chaaai (50330 in chips)
    Seat 4: djk123 (137590 in chips)
    Seat 5: shuriken555 (32568 in chips)
    Seat 6: bindernutnut (41039 in chips)
    Seat 7: jcl87 (38107 in chips)
    Seat 8: hasankiki (41376 in chips)
    Seat 9: bearsfan775 (37927 in chips)
    SkaiWalkurrr: posts the ante 85
    raidalot: posts the ante 85
    Chaaai: posts the ante 85
    djk123: posts the ante 85
    shuriken555: posts the ante 85
    bindernutnut: posts the ante 85
    jcl87: posts the ante 85
    hasankiki: posts the ante 85
    bearsfan775: posts the ante 85
    bearsfan775: posts small blind 350
    SkaiWalkurrr: posts big blind 700
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    raidalot: folds
    Chaaai: folds
    djk123: raises 700 to 1400
    shuriken555: raises 2800 to 4200
    bindernutnut: folds
    jcl87: folds
    hasankiki: folds
    bearsfan775: folds
    SkaiWalkurrr: folds
    djk123: calls 2800
    *** FLOP *** [7s 3d Th]
    djk123: checks
    shuriken555: bets 4800
    djk123: raises 128505 to 133305 and is all-in
    shuriken555: calls 23483 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (105022) returned to djk123
    *** TURN *** [7s 3d Th] [3h]
    *** RIVER *** [7s 3d Th 3h] [5s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    djk123: shows [Kh Jd] (a pair of Threes)
    shuriken555: shows [8c 9c] (a pair of Threes - lower kicker)
    djk123 collected 66781 from pot
    shuriken555 finished the tournament in 41st place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 66781 | Rake 0
    Board [7s 3d Th 3h 5s]
    Seat 1: SkaiWalkurrr (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: raidalot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Chaaai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: djk123 showed [Kh Jd] and won (66781) with a pair of Threes
    Seat 5: shuriken555 showed [8c 9c] and lost with a pair of Threes
    Seat 6: bindernutnut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: jcl87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: hasankiki (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: bearsfan775 (small blind) folded before Flop
  2. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 3:51am) in reply to feltmelter

    that's why dan is the best, he always knows where he's at in a hand
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  3. feltmelter feltmelter is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 4:26am) in reply to Gags30

    seemed odd the dude called off his 23k there at 400/800...
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  4. Counting Bodies Counting Bodies is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 4:30am) in reply to feltmelter

    210k at 400/800........thats not bad
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 4:58am) in reply to Counting Bodies

    haha.
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 5:55am) in reply to TrueMetalMan

    huh pretty standard if u give villain the right preflop range and with stacks as they are
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 6:45am) in reply to RedIceRap

     
    Originally Posted by RedIceRap View Post

    huh pretty standard if u give villain the right preflop range and with stacks as they are

    Pretty standard calloff or shove?
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 6:53am) in reply to donkiman

    Shove of course. but if djk had 56s or smth this would be a very good call then obviously lol. When i look at it again i think this was a bit like gambling since that guy 3bets right behind him in MP and will prolly call the shove with like every PP, every pair and even smth like AJ-AK. But im not djk so i should just keep my stupid mouth shut ^^
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  9. Unbay2k4 Unbay2k4 is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 7:13am) in reply to RedIceRap

    Looks like a results oriented post.
    Don't know what your doing reraising 98s in early position...especially against a top pro.
    He probably knew what you've been up too.
    He's line was to check shove you on the flop probably thinking you had a ten in your hand and you might fold to a shove.
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 7:55am) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post

    Looks like a results oriented post.
    Don't know what your doing reraising 98s in early position...especially against a top pro.
    He probably knew what you've been up too.
    He's line was to check shove you on the flop probably thinking you had a ten in your hand and you might fold to a shove.

    i dont think it was him
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 8:20am) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post

    He probably knew what you've been up too.
    He's line was to check shove you on the flop probably thinking you had a ten in your hand and you might fold to a shove.

    Yeah, this.
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 8:51am) in reply to R_Webb18

    def wasn't me. I was just railing.
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:03am) in reply to feltmelter

    Nah honestly, how the hell can u make such a horrible call OP?
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:08am) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post

    Looks like a results oriented post.
    Don't know what your doing reraising 98s in early position...especially against a top pro.
    He probably knew what you've been up too.
    He's line was to check shove you on the flop probably thinking you had a ten in your hand and you might fold to a shove.

    lol
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:08am) in reply to feltmelter

    Shuriken has really nice results! Is there anybody who can explain how going broke there with almost 50bb before hand starts could be profitable?
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:17am) in reply to RedIceRap

    hands aren't played in vacuums
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 1:02pm) in reply to feltmelter

     
    Originally Posted by feltmelter View Post

    seemed odd the dude called off his 23k there at 400/800...

    the dude, shuriken was on tilt... djk just doubled up from him 1 hand before this hand was played. :)
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 7:42pm) in reply to OVERDRIV3

    30 min before this shuriken was chip leader with around about 100,000 chips and second had 50,000 chips.
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 8:22pm) in reply to random.chu

     
    Originally Posted by random.chu View Post

    hands aren't played in vacuums

    But he coulda just folded to the money bro!!!
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:26pm) in reply to Jymaster0011

    FTC ftttttttttc
     
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:32pm) in reply to Appst08

    djk had him by the balls, had screwed him earlier and the guy was mad as hell tilting, obv at that level the buyin doesn't mean that much - just anuva game?
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 9:59pm) in reply to Jymaster0011

     
    Originally Posted by Jymaster0011 View Post

    But he coulda just folded to the money bro!!!

    IM NOT YOUR BRO, BRO

    jk we bros
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 11:16pm) in reply to random.chu

    Kids, don't try this line at home. DJK is a professional who is way better than me and you.
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    Dec 19th, 2011 (12/19/2011 11:54pm) in reply to random.chu

     
    Originally Posted by random.chu View Post

    hands aren't played in vacuums


    what is this, a vacuum made for ants?
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    Dec 20th, 2011 (12/20/2011 1:39am) in reply to RedIceRap

     
    Originally Posted by RedIceRap View Post

    Shuriken has really nice results! Is there anybody who can explain how going broke there with almost 50bb before hand starts could be profitable?

    djk pretty much raping the table, hand right before it he caged him for a big pot without showdown. djk is an expert button clicker
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    Jan 8th, 2012 (1/8/2012 9:01am) in reply to feltmelter

    I thought someone on here might be able to explain this move, since I'm inexperienced and couldn't justify it. And this from memory so sorry for any mistakes

    less than 18 left...

    Before this Djk was dominating the table as you'd expect and had a nice chip lead, and yes DYBYDX had been 3betting a fair bit

    Djk123 has a 125BBs+ stack and open raises with KQo from UTG+2 I do believe.
    DYBYDX has a 54BB stack and 3bets from the button.
    Djk123 tanks and then ops to 4bet shove. DYBYDX calls with AKo

    I can understand thinking that theres a lot of fold equity against DYBs 3betting range since Djk had a very aggressive image and playing KQ OOP in a 3bet pot isnt very profitable, but I also think your lowering your variance in the late stages of this tourney when youre chip leader by flatting or 5bet/folding and i consider these to be better options. I dont think folding is an option.

    Could anybody explain this move a bit better to me?
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