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  1. SONICDAHEDGEHOG SONICDAHEDGEHOG is offline

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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 6:41am)

    Hi all,

    Just looking for some advice in regards to online cash games.

    I play both live and online poker. In terms of live cash games, i play 9-handed NL and consistently turn a profit.

    However, when it comes to online cash i'm finding myself having very inconsistent results and it's affecting my bottom line.

    I tend to play alot of 'cap' cash games and usually 6-max, with the stakes varing between $0.25/0.50 - $2/4.

    I can't even recall why i started prefering 6-max and cap over full ring and NL but, it seems thats now all i play by habit.

    I'm looking for advice in regards to determining the key differences between both 6-max/full ring and Cap/NL, along with how i should best determine which i should be playing.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Sonic
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 12:12pm) in reply to SONICDAHEDGEHOG

    Are you a nit? Serious question.
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 12:33pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    No...
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 1:57pm) in reply to SONICDAHEDGEHOG

    Well the difference between full ring and 6 max in its most basic form is that you have to play a few more hands. You have to be more agressive. If you sit there and don't do anything the blinds eat away at you quicker whereas you can get away with this more at a full ring table.

    If you can be more specific I can help more or alternatively you can add me and I'll happily answer your questions as you come up with them if they're more specific.
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 8:52pm) in reply to djdoodoo

     
    Originally Posted by djdoodoo View Post

    Well the difference between full ring and 6 max in its most basic form is that you have to play a few more hands. You have to be more agressive. If you sit there and don't do anything the blinds eat away at you quicker whereas you can get away with this more at a full ring table.

    If you can be more specific I can help more or alternatively you can add me and I'll happily answer your questions as you come up with them if they're more specific.

    Yeah, i understand what your saying about the blind situation. When talking about the aggression factor, would you say that this is even more of a factor in 'cap' games compared to normal NL?

    To me, there seems to be alot more all-ins in cap games and when thinking about what you've said, i'm thinking perhaps a player has to have a doubly aggressive game to be successful in this form of the game?

    I tend to mix my game up alot, use position and pick my spots against players i have a read on so, perhaps where i'm falling short is that i'm not being aggressive enough for the form of the game i'm playing. Do you think i would be better suited to leaving cap games alone and sticking to normal NL like i do live?
    Edited By: SONICDAHEDGEHOG Jul 10th, 2012 at 08:56 PM
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 8:59pm) in reply to SONICDAHEDGEHOG

    Well I'd assume that in cap games people are more agressive if they know what they're doing but not at the lower stakes. It depends what stakes you decide to play. Or at least it shouldn't be such a big problem on the lower games.
    Edited By: djdoodoo Jul 10th, 2012 at 08:59 PM
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 9:27pm) in reply to djdoodoo

     
    Originally Posted by djdoodoo View Post

    Well I'd assume that in cap games people are more agressive if they know what they're doing but not at the lower stakes. It depends what stakes you decide to play. Or at least it shouldn't be such a big problem on the lower games.

    I've noticed that when i'm playing $1/2 and $2/4 cap, i'm often up against alot of supernova elite players who are very aggressive and are often shoving with very marginal hands. Makes me wonder if they are simply doing that to earn VPPs or if its for another reason i'm unaware of. I would've thought they would earn more VPPs playing higher stakes so, maybe this is where the agression factor your taking about comes into play and perhaps i need to broaden my range in this form of the game to be more successful or as i said before, perhaps stick to normal NL instead.
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 9:46pm) in reply to SONICDAHEDGEHOG

    It's not to earn more vpps. It will be them adapting to each other. I doubt they shove like this vs yourself? Maybe it's their 4bet bluffing range. It's hard to say. If in doubt I'd suggest sticking to 6 max regular games.
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    Jul 10th, 2012 (7/10/2012 9:57pm) in reply to djdoodoo

     
    Originally Posted by djdoodoo View Post

    It's not to earn more vpps. It will be them adapting to each other. I doubt they shove like this vs yourself? Maybe it's their 4bet bluffing range. It's hard to say. If in doubt I'd suggest sticking to 6 max regular games.

    Thanks for your advice.

    I think i'm going to give myself a break from cap games and have a period of time where i stick to regular NL to see how i go.
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    Jul 11th, 2012 (7/11/2012 7:41pm) in reply to SONICDAHEDGEHOG

    There is a pretty big difference between online .25/.50 and 2/4. Are you a winning player at any of these stakes?

    I assume that you have HM or PT. I would suggest taking a look at your database over the last 50k + hands and seeing what your leaks are for each of these games using Leak Buster or via coaching session. Then determine where you need to make adjustments.

    It doesn't really matter what game you are playing, as long as you are playing it optimally.
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    Jul 12th, 2012 (7/12/2012 4:25am) in reply to JohnnyBGood

    No, it doesn't matter what game you are playing, so long as you are making +ev decisions :).
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    Jul 16th, 2012 (7/16/2012 5:35pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    Stats important, high varience players jammin off charts now a days..need to know who they are..
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