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Flatting vs. Shoving ... online psych

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  1. pokabenny pokabenny is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2012 (1/28/2012 4:46pm)

    So in a live game, we know the hands are set and cannot change.
    can the same be said for online play?

    I always wondered if different actions create different outcomes...

    ex; 1) flatting vs. shoving
    2) positioning, timing and bet sizing accordingly
    3) correct play vs. the gut play

    So , can one alter the outcome of a hand using any/all of the examples
    or are the hands set ?

    thoughts,comments, advice, jokes are welcomed
  2. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Jan 28th, 2012 (1/28/2012 4:55pm) in reply to pokabenny

    On FTP they had it so that the shuffle was continuous, so this was the case as depending on when you hit the buttons yourself you could determine the outcome of later cards randomly. On pokerstars and most sites, the shuffle is predetermined at the start of the hand, and thus nothing you described would change the cards once the first card was dealt.
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  3. bukowski101 bukowski101 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 2:35pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

    I was just awful at timing that RNG on FT :/
     
  4. absherrj absherrj is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 5:10am) in reply to bukowski101

    wow, nice tid bit of info waxy..
  5. tedSTRETCH tedSTRETCH is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 6:12am) in reply to absherrj

    nothing better than wondering what would have happened if you waited one more second before 5b shoving your aa into kk on the money bubble for thousands on ftp
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  6. BenJamin327 BenJamin327 is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 7:10am) in reply to tedSTRETCH

    As in the FTP case, your decision should never change just because the outcomes are changing, never try and time the rng
    Edited By: BenJamin327 Feb 1st, 2012 at 07:10 AM
  7. double_kyan double_kyan is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 7:15am) in reply to BenJamin327

    wow! never knew that, this makes sense why i always hated ftp....................f ing ridiculous to have a continuous shuffle wtf is that
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  8. crystal_donkey crystal_donkey is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 9:25am) in reply to double_kyan

    I certainly hope it goes without saying that continuous shuffle vs predetermined has absolutely no effect on anything. The notion of "timing" a random event is asinine, and mostly everyone on FTP knew that, and had no problem with it because any thinking person could see that random continuous or random predetermined is still at the end of the day random, which is all that matters.
  9. Ptrou Ptrou is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 9:56am) in reply to crystal_donkey

    Damn, im glad i didnt play much on FTP seems like even more skill needed to get the timing right.
  10. OU_dlanger610 OU_dlanger610 is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 10:05am) in reply to Ptrou

    Being one with the RNG on Full Tilt was an art. You had to really feel the positive vibes right before you called off the preflop jam.

    Waitttt foorrr ittt....waiittt forrrr ittttt, waiiitttt f, NOW
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  11. Ptrou Ptrou is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 10:38am) in reply to OU_dlanger610

    If FTP ever come back I will have to hit pay for your services.Seems -EV to play without any training in RNG Training
  12. flashdisastr flashdisastr is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 3:11pm) in reply to Ptrou

    lol ft.... doesnt matter tho if its continousely shuffled or not...luck is luck doesnt matter when its shuffled but hear ya, if only I knew I would still have tryed approching the timing of my calls in a different way...
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  13. MSU-ATO MSU-ATO is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 4:07pm) in reply to flashdisastr

    yea either way the cards are random, makes no difference
  14. pokabenny pokabenny is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2012 (2/2/2012 3:14am) in reply to MSU-ATO

    there is a lot less card railing than before "aaaaaaaaaa" hahah
    guess the masses caught on....
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