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  1. How much money would you need behind you to feel comfortable quitting your job and playing poker. Lets say your a consistent small overall winner on a large sample size of 6 years. What amount would make you feel comfortable enough to quit the day job and be your own boss? This is not a bankroll question. Knowing that your a break even player at the absolute worst, what would your net worth or cash behind need to be?
  2. 40k bankroll and enuf for a year so bout 12-20k life roll
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    Originally Posted by mcandrews3rd View Post

    40k bankroll and enuf for a year so bout 12-20k life roll

    eh? i think peoples common misconception with poker is that they think if your not making $100k a year playing its not worth it. Friends of mine coming out of Uni, are starting on about $30k/year and often below that number. I finished Uni 1 year ago, with a $2k bankroll and pretty much no life money, and since then ive been living the same if not higher standard of life to them, whilst growing my roll to over $10k. If you got a good plan and youve looked into it enough you dont need masses of money.

    I mean out of interest where do you just pick this number, $40k and 12-20K liferoll from?
  4.  
    Originally Posted by Sdanby View Post

    eh? i think peoples common misconception with poker is that they think if your not making $100k a year playing its not worth it. Friends of mine coming out of Uni, are starting on about $30k/year and often below that number. I finished Uni 1 year ago, with a $2k bankroll and pretty much no life money, and since then ive been living the same if not higher standard of life to them, whilst growing my roll to over $10k. If you got a good plan and youve looked into it enough you dont need masses of money.

    I mean out of interest where do you just pick this number, $40k and 12-20K liferoll from?

    I guess a 6 month of breaking even and you will agree with him. 400-500 buyin roll + 1 year of living expense is a minimum imo
     
  5. There are general rules like Deafness said (# of buy ins), but your question would probably get better responses if you said what kind of games you want to play (MTT or cash), what stakes you are playing, and then based on that do a budget of your monthly/yearly expenses.
     
  6.  
    Originally Posted by Deafness View Post

    I guess a 6 month of breaking even and you will agree with him. 400-500 buyin roll + 1 year of living expense is a minimum imo

    i mean i play a pretty low variance schedule of soft fields and have had over a year in consecutive winning months. my point is if you have a good plan and have put time into creating your schedule then you can do it with alot less. His question was very vague, and i agree if your gonna grind low stakes mtts on stars yeh your gonna need some money behind you cuz the variance will be massive
  7. after black friday how would anyone want to quit there job?
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  8.  
    Originally Posted by apology7 View Post

    after black friday how would anyone want to quit there job?

    if they aren't in the us? (OP Is in the US though so that has me baffled...)
    Edited By: bonflizubi May 8th, 2011 at 03:43 PM
     
  9. I dont know your ages. But I am assuming low 20s. You need not to think about how much you need now. You need to think of what you will need years from now. Sure short term you can survive but what about when you have a wife and children? and all you have been doing it getting by. Unless you hit it big you will not have college money for your kids, heath care is real expensive andwill not have any $ for retirement. Think long term get your education, get a good paying job and play poker in spare time. You dont want to wake up one morning with a family and have to make X amount each day grinding so they can eat. Trust me.
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  10.  
    Originally Posted by Duff McGuire View Post

    I dont know your ages. But I am assuming low 20s. You need not to think about how much you need now. You need to think of what you will need years from now. Sure short term you can survive but what about when you have a wife and children? and all you have been doing it getting by. Unless you hit it big you will not have college money for your kids, heath care is real expensive andwill not have any $ for retirement. Think long term get your education, get a good paying job and play poker in spare time. You dont want to wake up one morning with a family and have to make X amount each day grinding so they can eat. Trust me.

    So what would you need to feel comfortable not working? 2million? more?

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    if they aren't in the us? (OP Is in the US though so that has me baffled...)


    I think your misunderstanding the question. I'm not talking about grinding it out for the rest of my life. What I mean is using poker as your only source of income but not being a grinding nit, worrying about maintaining a high hourly or BB/hr. More like playing poker just for some extra cash in your pocket
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  11.  
    Originally Posted by Sdanby View Post

    I mean out of interest where do you just pick this number, $40k and 12-20K liferoll from?

    40k is the br i would want spread over Tilt stars and party for the stakes i play

    12-20k allows for 12 months rent with spending money
  12. Depends what your job is obviously, and yeah would start with no less than 40k, thats pretty shallow br too.
    Edited By: MakeMeMaster May 9th, 2011 at 01:44 AM
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  13. idk.. around tree-fiddy I guess.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by Poker Orifice View Post

    idk.. around tree-fiddy I guess.

    I kneed fo fitty
  15. Even with current LOW interest rates, if you had 2 Million in the bank you're yearly income in interest would be be enough to live a "comfortable" life even if you were just breaking even playing poker. Not luxurious just comfortable.
  16.  
    Originally Posted by Gomer6561 View Post


    I think your misunderstanding the question. I'm not talking about grinding it out for the rest of my life. What I mean is using poker as your only source of income but not being a grinding nit, worrying about maintaining a high hourly or BB/hr. More like playing poker just for some extra cash in your pocket

    Makes no sense
    Edited By: ACgaming May 9th, 2011 at 07:36 AM
  17. with what i THINK you are trying to ask... that is; other than interest on money, poker is my only source of income (if at all), and I need to be comfortable with that, and I need to be happy with the lifestyle I am living as all of this is taking place?

    10million. (I'm 23 btw, if i was older would maybe need less.)
  18.  
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    Depends what your job is obviously, and yeah would start with no less than 40k, thats pretty shallow br too.

    Well yeh for the stakes you and mcandrews play this is going to be necessary, but he has already said hes a low stakes grinder.
  19. Bout Tree Fiddy

    Working Sucks
  20. you could prob be fine with a years worth of expenses and a 20k roll

    depends what stakes you play but if you play mainly MTT's like up to 75 FO and 20 rebuy that would be about 300 buyin's which should stop you going broke if your sensible and mix in lower variance small field mtt's etc

    For me personally I would have a years salary after tax put away (is more than life expesnse for a year normally for most) so bout $38k in the bank and $20k roll.

    Also would not quit work if i did not think i could make that $38k a year at least playing full time, although it doesn't kill you to have a year out of the workforce. It's not great to quit and then have to find full time employment again after a year
     
  21.  
    Originally Posted by hitthenuts View Post

    with what i THINK you are trying to ask... that is; other than interest on money, poker is my only source of income (if at all), and I need to be comfortable with that, and I need to be happy with the lifestyle I am living as all of this is taking place?

    10million. (I'm 23 btw, if i was older would maybe need less.)


    +1 here. 10 million is seriously my number. (I've thought about it)
     
  22. lifes short, go for it son... although ur from the u.s....stay in school..
    Edited By: ShipThisPLZ May 9th, 2011 at 05:17 PM
  23.  
    Originally Posted by Sdanby View Post

    Well yeh for the stakes you and mcandrews play this is going to be necessary, but he has already said hes a low stakes grinder.

    I wouldn't quit my job to grind low stakes tho.
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  24.  
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    I wouldn't quit my job to grind low stakes tho.

    ok i agree with tht, but i ddnt have a job in the first place
  25.  
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    I wouldn't quit my job to grind low stakes tho.

    U didnt start grinding low stakes? MMM you are so fcking cool man!!!!!!!
  26.  
    Originally Posted by gosoxxx View Post

    U didnt start grinding low stakes? MMM you are so fcking cool man!!!!!!!

    Did I say I didn't? Reading comprehension ftw.
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    Did I say I didn't? Reading comprehension ftw.

    U gonna be in Vegas soon MMM?
  28. Don't quit your day job. If you don't have a job, go get one and grind part time. If you bink something big enough to give poker a shot for a living then go for it - but I wouldn't suggest doing so if you have a wife and kids. I almost thought of quitting my 9-5 and giving poker a shot a few years back, good thing I didn't. The older you get, one of the most important things to have is health insurance, which a lot of companies offer up for a decent price. Otherwise, you will have to pay a shitload out of pocket. If no one relies on you and you're single, plus you don't have a substantial amount of bills to pay, then you can probably give it a go with a low 5-fig bankroll and liferoll.