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  1. felipebball felipebball is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 1:47pm)

    So I was playing at a local cardroom in Auckland, New Zealand and this hand occurred. 9 players are dealt cards. UTG raises and gets two callers. The dealer burns and deals out the flop. Original raiser c-bets. One player calls, the other folds. The dealer burns and deals out the turn. Action goes to the UTG player and as he is considering his action, the dealer is spreading the pot out to see how big it is to figure out if it has hit the max rake mark or not. While spreading the pot, the dealer drops the deck and it lands face-up, cards exposed and fanned out....what happens now?
  2. AYBABTU AYBABTU is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 1:52pm) in reply to felipebball

    Call for a floor decision. Mistakes can and do happen. The Cardroom manager and floor person will make the best decision in equity to all.
    So....what happened?
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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 1:56pm) in reply to AYBABTU

    lol obviously the floor was called, but this is a smaller pokerroom and poker is relatively new to NZ compared to the US so they are still working on their understanding of some rules. Rules a his casino seem to change week in and week out about string betting and things like that. I was looking for a dealer or floor person who could make a call on this or if it has ever happened to someone. I'll say what happened after there are a few responses. Thanks
    Edited By: felipebball Apr 19th, 2011 at 01:56 PM
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  4. AGGRECIV AGGRECIV is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 2:32pm) in reply to felipebball

    Shuffle the cards, burn then deal the river. No biggi
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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 2:51pm) in reply to AGGRECIV

     
    Originally Posted by AGGRECIV View Post

    Shuffle the cards, burn then deal the river. No biggi


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  6. felipebball felipebball is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 5:47pm) in reply to FouTight

    That is what I suggested should happen, but not the approach the casino took. Anyone a dealer or had this happen to them at the casino and have them just reshuffle, burn and put out the river? It seems the best logic to me, but was looking for other opinions.
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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 6:56pm) in reply to NoMoreOnline

    what happened!
  8. williambrasky14 williambrasky14 is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 7:17pm) in reply to dannydunks

    reshuffle the flipped cards and put the river out. that is the only real option here. been a floor manager for 2 years fwiw.
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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 7:20pm) in reply to dannydunks

    Yep, scoop up deck and reshuffle it and deal the river when it is time for that action.
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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 8:07pm) in reply to williambrasky14

    I wasn't in the hand so it didn't affect me at all, but I enjoy odd dealing situations. The floor manager (who has no idea wtf he is talking about and makes rules outta his ass half the time) said that the hand was dead and the pot was to be divided up between the two remaining players. Although I usually dont' say much in hands I'm not involved in, I knew that this was definetely not the right action to take and tried to speak up and say that they needed to complete action on the turn first, then reshuffle, burn and flip the river but was told by the floor manager the hand was dead. Thanks

     
    Originally Posted by williambrasky14 View Post

    reshuffle the flipped cards and put the river out. that is the only real option here. been a floor manager for 2 years fwiw.

    There was another odd dealing situation that occurred last week was wondering what you would have done, having been a floor manager. This situation I actually was a bit puzzled on. Basically the hand is played out to the river. It is heads up and Player A checks, Player B quietly announces $75 as he tosses in a $100 chip. The dealer thinks he hears $25. Tells Player A at the opposite end of the table it is $25 to call. Player A eventually folds, and Player B didnt' say anything about it being 75 until after he folded, but I also heard him say 75 as I was sitting right next to him. If Player A were to call, what action would take place? Would he be allowed to re-think his call if he announced call by throwing in a $25 chip and then Player B making his case that it was $75? If so, what if he announces call (thinking it is 25) and reveals his hand, Player B shows his hand and then when Player B goes to collect the pot, he argues that he said $75, which he did.....sorry, but like I said, I enjoy odd dealing situations.

    I feel like I have seen a ton of weird spots, but wouldnt' mind hearing some more.
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  11. williambrasky14 williambrasky14 is offline

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    Apr 19th, 2011 (4/19/2011 9:47pm) in reply to felipebball

    Since the dealer announced the bet as $25, and no one spoke up, I would say the player who called the $25 bet would be able to call just $25 and showdown his hand. It is a dealer error and not the fault of either player, but player B does have an ethical responsibility to speak up about the wrong declaration by the dealer.
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    Apr 20th, 2011 (4/20/2011 1:47am) in reply to AGGRECIV

     
    Originally Posted by AGGRECIV View Post

    Shuffle the cards, burn then deal the river. No biggi

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