I am not saying what any of you should do...as I said, it's your choice for how you deal with it. But, DEAL WITH IT. JJ is dealing with the reality that the consequences are small for the gains he can make in his mind and that's how he is dealing with it. Now, the choice is yours for how you plan to deal with it.

PHX = cardinals fan holding the "get a brain you morans" sign

you sir, are royally retarded. br, save your breath this guy is either a complete assclown or a shill of JJs. i refuse to believe that any clear-minded, semi-educated (6th grade?) individual could really think this.

and if this whole problem were to ever get solved to the point that JJ can't multi-account (or even play), will you be on here saying that people are crybabies b/c they couldn't beat JJ?

i dont know why you people insist on justifying cheating/multiaccounting because you incorrectly state that "online poker is unregulated". Documented and admitted stealing (to say it simply) violates criminal law. What do you think, because poker sites are run outside the U.S., a U.S. player suddenly becomes immune from criminal liability? If someone pursued this seriously with the proper authorities, there is no doubt cimes were committed. It would just take someone motivated or pissed enough to alert the right people............................

I don't believe what you are saying, but if that's true, DO IT!!!!! That's dealing with it...my only point in my post. If you are so outraged, get off your asses and do something about it or accept it and deal with it accordingly.

I understand that JJ is a horrible piece of evidence for the future of online poker, but I'm not going to pretend he doesn't exist. He does exist and others like him exist, and my point is simply:

1. It's his personal choice to do it, and one that I think can be understood when you detach emotionally from it.
2. The consequences for him doing it are small....it would be nice if they were larger, but they're not.
3. Because of the above, you as an opponent of his have to choose personally how you are going to handle it.

napster or w/e method ppl d/l free music from is actually a reasonable analogy...except that those who now claim to be victims of JJP are actually the victimizers in the music d/l instance which understandably can create some distancing in their minds that they are the same...but they are.

I wonder if the sunday million will hit the guarantee today now that JJ has quit multi accounting.

Interesting. Well, then some of those who are so outraged by the whole thing ought to get moving on that....but I'm guessing it's just easier to moan.

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by PHX_Rises on 12/23/2007 13:43 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR> </NOBR></TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD bgColor=#ffffff></TD><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>Actually br, ppl who think that those who think differently from them ruin the world are the people who are wrong with the world.

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For someone who is quick to challenge others to compare academic pedigrees you either have selective interpretation or reading comprehension problems.

At no point did I EVER say that I had any issue with someone having a different opinion than myself.

What I did specifically find fault with is your faulty logic that since we supposedly can't do anything about it then we should all accept it or lower our ethical standards to his so as to even the playing field. That's just plain weak.

I do in fact think that we are making progression. JJ and his cohorts have lost some money(granted not enough), they have had accounts banned, and they have zero respect. What they are now desparately doing is spin/damage control. They underestimated the demand of everyone that they play fairly, and they especially miscalculated the resolve of the sites and the community to isolate them and weed them out.

Nice try at deflecting where the focus should be, you should try aplying for a JJ crony position although those jobs aren't quite as desirable anymore.

I hear what you're saying, but I think that discussion and outrage can often times (especially on the interweb) be confused for cying or complaining.

I also think that if you don't properly convey just how outraged you are, you probably aren't doing enough to raise awareness and help get the industry regulated. I'd also add that I'm not sure how active we can be in getting regulation outside of joining the PPA. I mean ,sure I call my congressman/senators on a bi-monthly basis, but if you're argument is that you have to be organizing marches in order to be properly upset about people cheating, I have to disagree.

I can be outraged about people drinking an driving without joining Madd...

If this kid is at my table, all I will draw so much attention to him and his cheating, everyone in the room will know who he is. Apology NOT ACCEPTED. HOPE YOU BURN.

XOXOXO

<table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#eeeedd"><td><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>by lyingpos on 12/23/2007 13:13 </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><nobr> </nobr> </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td colspan="2"><table celspacing="0" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>What complete bs the below 2 paragraphs are...just a few months ago josh had 3-5 accounts closed on ft for multiple entries into the ftops events. All of his friends were aware of this. It is also an absolute fact that he is/was GOT TILT on ps that got 9th then 1st in the pstars millions...All his close friends know this yes they defend him and post this garbage for him. It is an absolute fact that GOT is him. He continues to multi account/ steal and for GB to post this while knowing josh has no ethics is a joke.
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BINGO!!!

Josh, Gbmantis, etc..

While this is a step in the right direction, as boke said, the timing is laughable.
Had you done this 4 months ago, it mightve meant alot more.
That being said, I still believe you did the right thing.
However, more information needs to be revealed if you are serious about coming clean once and for all. How much money did you make from the multi accounting? All of this money needs to be refunded somehow, or given to charity publicly, or something like that if you want people to take you seriously. You say you dont care about the money? Then throw your whole roll out the window and start over.

Words mean nothing without the proper actions to back them up.

350th

Most ppl would read "accept" the way I used it originally correctly...but you didn't, so I wanted to clarify it for you.

And I think the reason for apology is he is confused...and searching around a little bit for what to do. But, in reality, not having a "good reputation" or fandom or a pocket5s ranking or anything like that is actually a pretty negligible deterrent if someone wants to really commit to doing what he is doing.