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  1. It was a bittersweet Sunday: Two 1k+ scores--good enough to earn me my 100k badge; however, I had a meltdown in The Sunday $215 70k on Merge which had nearly 20k on the line for 1st.

    There were 384 runners. I was able to grind most of the mid-to-mid/late stages with 9-20 bbs. Won a couple of flips and 60/40s and got up to 33bb. I find myself in the CO with AKs. I open, sb (39bb) 3bets about 2.7x, I 4 bet jam and he turns over QQ. Board runs out A7KQ...K!

    After recovering from a near heart attack, I find myself sitting in 2/33 and were ITM. I eventually grab the chip lead and hold on to it all the way to 1/14. I lose a flip AK<TT and drop down to 5/12.

    After being card dead for a couple orbits I pick-up 88 in CO with 22bb and open-shove. Get called by BB who had about 45bigs. He turns over AQ flop top pair, turn gives me a gutshot straight-draw, he fades the river.

    Out in 11th for $1400. I should be excited for the badge, but I keep asking myself if I could have played the 88 differently...maybe open 2.2x/call/fold...shit idk. I guess I'll just chuck it up to variance and swallow the tough pill.

    So close yet so far.
     
  2. Nice run.

    I r/c the 88 hand. Shoving just forces people to have good hands to call with, by raising we will incude a lot of light 3bets that will either 3b/f and donate us more dead chips, or they will shove us which then we will be getting to a showdown vs a way weaker range than open shoving does.


    Congrats on the 100k badge.
     
  3. you run good. wait tell you hit real variance and cant dodge a two outer to save your life. makes me laugh when u act like u ran so bad to bubble the final table.
     
  4.  
    Originally Posted by KyleFly View Post

    you run good. wait tell you hit real variance and cant dodge a two outer to save your life. makes me laugh when u act like u ran so bad to bubble the final table.

    Kyle, you're not alone. Trust me, I've been on 6-7k downswings where nothing goes right.

    I don't believe any of the hands I posted were bad beats (which is why I said meltdown--not bad beat); I was simply reflecting on a day that was a couple of flips away from propelling me to my largest cash ever.

    GL to you at the tables.
     
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  5. Yeah bro i watched you play in that thing for a few hours until you busted out. I was also watching my boy CharlieDee also; As it seemed like you were running God like until you lost that flip.......................!!!!! Anyway good game and just remember you won a few big pots you should have lost. I feel your pain just got to take the good with the bad. Best of luck to you and congrats my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. where is that badge again?

    lol jk, congrats!
     
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    Originally Posted by SorryImDrunk View Post

    Kyle, you're not alone. Trust me, I've been on 6-7k downswings where nothing goes right.

    I don't believe any of the hands I posted were bad beats (which is why I said meltdown--not bad beat); I was simply reflecting on a day that was a couple of flips away from propelling me to my largest cash ever.

    GL to you at the tables.

    fair enough excuse my negativity. congrats on the 100k badge as well bro
     
  8. Thanks Will! Your badge is coming sooner than you think bro!

     
    Originally Posted by IBGrindin View Post

    where is that badge again?

    lol jk, congrats!

    Waiting for the 1.3k score to post from Cake. I guess cashouts aren't the only thing that Cake is slower at than anybody else lol.
    Edited By: SorryImDrunk Aug 20th, 2012 at 09:34 PM
     
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  9. Yeah I was there for all of it. You had no chips then what seemed like all the chips. I wasnt really too happy about you having a stack either.

    Id say just keep on keepin on brah.
  10. Congrats sorryimdrunk on the100k badge, and to macho for getting his biggest score.
  11. Id just open 2x - 2.2x with the 88 and re evaluate... when u shove and get called ur either racing or crunched. pairs 77 and under are folding almost every time. at least u give someone a chance to 3b u with a worse hand, plus 22 bbs still has 4b fold equity. u can even fold the 88 to a 3b from the right person
    Edited By: AMEC04 Aug 21st, 2012 at 12:53 AM
  12. 88 is r/c imo
     
  13. Little too deep to be just open jamming, especially a hand as good as 88. Give them a chance to 3bet or shove on you with worse pairs that they wouldn't normally call an all-in with. Who knows, some players might jam or 3bet as wide as A2-A8s which you also have crushed and they never call an open jam for that many chips. The goal here is to induce, not try being unexploitable.
     
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    Originally Posted by OneTime_10 View Post

    Little too deep to be just open jamming, especially a hand as good as 88. Give them a chance to 3bet or shove on you with worse pairs that they wouldn't normally call an all-in with. Who knows, some players might jam or 3bet as wide as A2-A8s which you also have crushed and they never call an open jam for that many chips. The goal here is to induce, not try being unexploitable.

    Well spoken and easily understood. Thanks for the advice.
     
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  15. i probably induce with both the AK and 88 hands
     
  16. Congrats on the badge!
  17. doesnt really sound like u had a epic meltdown, just lost the flips late wcyd, good run and nice job getting the badge, i would just r/c the 88 instead of open jammin the 22bbs fwiw, gl
     
  18. GG. Open shoving is fine especially on the final table bubble. You will not pick up as many chips as raise/calling but at the same time you will be knocked out of the tourney at a much lower % which also has lots of value on final table bubble.
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    Originally Posted by The Smoking Pimp View Post

    GG. Open shoving is fine especially on the final table bubble. You will not pick up as many chips as raise/calling but at the same time you will be knocked out of the tourney at a much lower % which also has lots of value on final table bubble.

    Wrong answer. Open shoving is bad, Only correct way to play 88 with 22 bbs in that spot is to bet/calll. Bet/folding is god awful
     
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    Originally Posted by phyzer23 View Post

    i probably induce with both the AK and 88 hands

    You definitely should be with AK, 88+ and imo with even like AJs+, AQo+, 88+. 77 is close but I still don't like just open jamming it, I'd rather open and hope for a 3bet so we can 4ball with some fe. Now a good question for discussion would be what if we open 77 or even 66 and he piles on us instead of 3betting? Do we call or sigh fold??
     
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    Originally Posted by OneTime_10 View Post

    You definitely should be with AK, 88+ and imo with even like AJs+, AQo+, 88+. 77 is close but I still don't like just open jamming it, I'd rather open and hope for a 3bet so we can 4ball with some fe. Now a good question for discussion would be what if we open 77 or even 66 and he piles on us instead of 3betting? Do we call or sigh fold??

    I forgot to add another question in my last post. Is this now a good spot to do the exact opposite of trying to induce and avoid being exploited by just open jamming a hand like 66 or is a raise/fold or raise/call better??? Obviously this is all highly player dependent as well but just for the sake of the discussion what do most people think?
     
  22. i was referring to his earlier AK hand with 33bbs eff or whatever... in the 88 hand def inducing 88+ probably 77 and inducing as wide as ATo (maybe even A9s) against certain villians. also to note something no one has brought up is I still have a r/f range here as well....
     
  23. Nice run op congrats on the 100k badge

    [ ] meltdown, I thought when I read this thread that you bluffed your stack off or something but all you did was lose a coinflip
     
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    Originally Posted by kevmode View Post

    Nice run op congrats on the 100k badge

    [ ] meltdown, I thought when I read this thread that you bluffed your stack off or something but all you did was lose a coinflip

    Yeah, looking back I admittedly used the wrong terminology. Meltdown would be more appropriate for the unconventional squeeze I made in the High Roller on Monday with Q7s: Sitting at average stack 35bb in SB. UTG+2 opens 2.5x, CO flats and I 3b to 7.5x, OR flats and then I donkbet 2/3 pot on Q6A only to get min raised and I snap fold to leave me with with 16bb, lol.

    Squeeze Attempt Fail (i.e. Meltdown)
     
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  25. [QUOTE=SorryImDrunk;6986175]It was a bittersweet Sunday: Two 1k+ scores--good enough to earn me my 100k badge; however, I had a meltdown in The Sunday $215 70k on Merge which had nearly 20k on the line for 1st.

    yea like said above you cant raise fold? and again 88 at FT with ur bb's, 88 vs aq just classic flip... you'll win your next FT this way so glgl gg
    Edited By: Lengthwise905 Aug 23rd, 2012 at 09:09 AM
  26. grats.. been in the spot many times, my room has lost alot of good lamps. :[
    Edited By: ChameleoN89 Aug 24th, 2012 at 04:04 AM