[Pops28]

As much as I love it because there's is some great answers/advice on there. An some detailed level of thinking in some of the responses. I think the fact that people can't post on there because they don't have a 500k badge is unfair.

Yes I agree there are many people who respond with stupid shit when some people are asking a serious question, but why should the people who are trying to get serious and honest feedback not be allowed to post there as well. If that forum is going to be monitored any ways can't you just ban the people who go on their and just write stupid things??

I'm sure I'm not the only player on p5's who would like serious feed back on some of there hands from HSMTT players.

Just think that this sucks for the people who are actually trying to learn and improve their games. Although I understand why it was done.

Thoughts??

[wes_mc]

That's what the poker discussion forum is for. HSMTT is for high stakes players to get/give advice on hands from high stakes tourneys.

[Pops28]

Agreed, but what about if some of us who win a seat or directly buy in to a HSMTT have a question about a hand in that specific tournament.

[JaySpo]

I mean i'll just be happy to look through the HSMTT's forum and read what they are saying to be honest. I think it's great because all the best players will be serious when discussing topics in there and i'll be able to learn a lot without needing to interact.

When i have a question relative to the stakes i play, i'll still post it in PD and hear feedback from other players. And just because they post in the HSMTT's forum doesn't mean they won't still contribute to PD.

[wes_mc]

 

Originally Posted by Pops28

Agreed, but what about if some of us who win a seat or directly buy in to a HSMTT have a question about a hand in that specific tournament.

ok, so this is going to sound fairly elitist (and it is), but basically part of the idea is that they high stakes pros don't want to be bothered with basic questions from low stakes players who happen to be playing a big tournament. not saying I'm one of those pros (I'm not), but it is what it is.

 

Originally Posted by JaySpo

I mean i'll just be happy to look through the HSMTT's forum and read what they are saying to be honest. I think it's great because all the best players will be serious when discussing topics in there and i'll be able to learn a lot without needing to interact.

When i have a question relative to the stakes i play, i'll still post it in PD and hear feedback from other players. And just because they post in the HSMTT's forum doesn't mean they won't still contribute to PD.

also, this.

[Frank1The1Tank]

I am quite happy with it being at minimum 500k badge, would even prefer it to be a $1m badge but it prob wouldn't get as much usage I'd guess.

[Pops28]

Trust me Jayspo I am glad that they have a forum like that. Just wish that we can post some of our questions on there as well. If it pertains to a HSMTTT. That's all. If it's monitored any ways, I don't see why Moderators can't ban trollers from this specific forum.

[TheBulldog3]

 

Originally Posted by JaySpo

I mean i'll just be happy to look through the HSMTT's forum and read what they are saying to be honest. I think it's great because all the best players will be serious when discussing topics in there and i'll be able to learn a lot without needing to interact.

When i have a question relative to the stakes i play, i'll still post it in PD and hear feedback from other players. And just because they post in the HSMTT's forum doesn't mean they won't still contribute to PD.

Pretty much agree with this. I was actually happy when I saw the posting requirement because the top players take each other more seriously than they take anyone else (as they probably should), so they will provide better explanations now and I think I'll be able to learn more from the thread as it is than with a bunch of other randoms posting spots from tourneys they sattied into and the top players just saying to "fold pre"

[Peoplezz]

I really like it as it is... I can scroll down and actually expect serious replies and questions, so hopefully people will be very active on there

[rain371]

+1 Even though I don't have a 500k badge yet I like the thought of serious discussion without a lot of basic questions.

[njw11]

just think of it as a place for hsmtters not msmtts

and i agree with frank Edited By: njw11 Mar 22nd, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Reason: frank

[LeedsJay]

 

Originally Posted by Peoplezz

I really like it as it is... I can scroll down and actually expect serious replies and questions, so hopefully people will be very active on there

+1

[shallowcal]

just because they have a hsmtt forum, doesnt mean that you cant post your questions in the regular poker discussion and have them (or anybody for that matter) give replies.

[LeedsJay]

 

Originally Posted by LeedsJay

+1

just to add a bit to that, this forum will now be more interesting for us lower stakes guys and we can still read some interesting chat on the highstakes board... win win

[AmSlim22]

not sure i quite agree with the decision on who can/can't post, but i guess they are working on it. 500k badge mostly just means u have put in a high volume and may or may not be much better than a breakeven player.

i do think the forum is a good thing tho and hope it gets some decent use.

[iPlayTourneys]

I agree with Frank, it could get up to $1M minimum or top 250/300 ranked players (one or the other..) but the ones with 500K badges clearly put volume and know in general what they are talking about so they can post and improve seems solid to me.

I think ppl w/o $500K badges or ranking should just be very excited to see a filtered forum that is dedicated to high stakes MTTs.. It can become very educational and I'm very much enjoying the discussions that are going on right now.

I hope many regulars will contribute and share there brilliance.

[P33J]

I love the new HSMTT forum personally and greatly look forward to reading it (and hopefully posting in it someday) but i think the 500k badge/top 1000 minimum requirement is good. They can't limit the traffic too much in what will already be by nature a pretty low traffic forum

[Pops28]

 

Originally Posted by iPlayTourneys

I agree with Frank, it could get up to $1M minimum or top 250/300 ranked players (one or the other..) but the ones with 500K badges clearly put volume and know in general what they are talking about so they can post and improve seems solid to me.

I think ppl w/o $500K badges or ranking should just be very excited to see a filtered forum that is dedicated to high stakes MTTs.. It can become very educational and I'm very much enjoying the discussions that are going on right now.

I hope many regulars will contribute and share there brilliance.

I am very excited about this..Not knocking this feature what so ever just woulda liked to have an option where us small timers can post a HH in a forum where only the HSMTT players would contribute. Mainly because they go through a thought process and not just reply with "fold" "shove".

But I am very excited that there is such a forum. Just didn't find the fact that only high volume players can post on there. But please keep up with the great replies on it cause it's very helpful.

Thanks

 

Originally Posted by shallowcal

just because they have a hsmtt forum, doesnt mean that you cant post your questions in the regular poker discussion and have them (or anybody for that matter) give replies.

True, but how often do the replies you get give a detailed explantion to why you are doing something rather than just what to do. Read the replies on the HSMTT they are much more detailed and helpful than most (not all) the ones that we get in regular PD.

[FenwayKing The Well: FenwayKing]

you can already see the difference in the hsmtt forum...people who like never post are posting detailed thought-out responses. that never happened on p5s anymore except for rare threads.

this is wayyyyyyyy better

if everyone could post on there, it'd become like PD again---all the high stakes players would be oi the discussion cuz for every good response there'd be 15 retarded ones.

the badge limit they're using is pretty wide already as frank/nate pointed out Edited By: FenwayKing Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:58 PM

[slow_rollin78]

OP- My advice to you is to get a 500k badge. Easy solution to your problem.

=)

[flashdisastr]

1 milli chip requirement would be unfair imo

pretty sure there are many (good) HSmtter who DONT have a 1M badge, just sayin...

Also do like the new forum as well. great job

[s1nnr will stab you]

people who dont fall into the HSMTT categorie, but take poker seriously and rely on it for income (like me) can learn alot from reading the HSMTTs forum... Im sure that problems that the HSMTTers have is probably some things that midstake grinders should pay attention to as well....

if you have a question about one of the threads, im sure you could PM specific questions to the HSMTTer.... in my experience, most pros are usually pretty open to tell their thought process

also, maybe they could add a MSMTT forum, so that people with 100k badge or top 3000 could discuss hands without people that are clueless replying with stuff that doesnt make sense

[valasaraptor16]

the HSMTT thread is amazing. I think i might post before I lose my ranking since my volume has dipped so severely oh maybe i just suck

[N 82 50 24 herp derp derp]

Thanks for all of the feedback on the HS MTT forum. FWIW, I don't know that HS is a good way to describe it but we called it that because people have informally referred to it that way for years.

I thought for a long time about the posting requirements. As many have noted, it's a balance between wanting good posters and having enough people who can post to get some discussion going. There's no option that will allow us to somehow just delete all bad posts and let a ton more people in -- that defeats the purpose. Clearly some people who are capable of good discussion will get left out of HS MTT... that's unavoidable.

We are likely to manually add some people who have other qualifications to be allowed into HS MTT. For instance, if someone is an accomplished live player or cash game player, we would let them in manually because they have experience playing the game at a high level and just because they haven't done much online doesn't mean they can't help. We would also add in former highly ranked players who have since removed their screennames for whatever reason. But I expect those additions to be few and far between.

[Gowiskijr]

I just want to say that I am nowhere near a HSMTT player, but when I read these forums I like to learn, and learn from the best. These guys are posting great stuff in the HSMTT forum. I dont think that all of the advice they give is exactly applicable to low stakes or maybe even mid stakes games because those guys are thinking on higher levels than the average player in the low stake fields.
I definately like the fact that I can go directly to a forum and read some great material. I would think that if you were anywhere near the top 1000 ranking or 500k badge, then this could really be used as a motivation tool for you to get better so you can discuss in the forum.

Nicely done P5s
(as for guys who want the HSMTT forum to be for top 300 or 1 mill badge, that is beyond me. HAHA)

[Pops28]

I must admit there is some great discussion on the HSMTTsection.

I guess I just have to work on my badge game.

[lpaper]

 

Originally Posted by N 82 50 24

Thanks for all of the feedback on the HS MTT forum. FWIW, I don't know that HS is a good way to describe it but we called it that because people have informally referred to it that way for years.

I thought for a long time about the posting requirements. As many have noted, it's a balance between wanting good posters and having enough people who can post to get some discussion going. There's no option that will allow us to somehow just delete all bad posts and let a ton more people in -- that defeats the purpose. Clearly some people who are capable of good discussion will get left out of HS MTT... that's unavoidable.

We are likely to manually add some people who have other qualifications to be allowed into HS MTT. For instance, if someone is an accomplished live player or cash game player, we would let them in manually because they have experience playing the game at a high level and just because they haven't done much online doesn't mean they can't help. We would also add in former highly ranked players who have since removed their screennames for whatever reason. But I expect those additions to be few and far between.

this(the bolded part) is bad logic... if content is good, volume on the forum will increase.

[Pghfan987]

 

Originally Posted by FenwayKing

you can already see the difference in the hsmtt forum...people who like never post are posting detailed thought-out responses. that never happened on p5s anymore except for rare threads.

this is wayyyyyyyy better

if everyone could post on there, it'd become like PD again---all the high stakes players would be oi the discussion cuz for every good response there'd be 15 retarded ones.

the badge limit they're using is pretty wide already as frank/nate pointed out

Agree 100%.

[8888kush]

Im really glad to see the HSMTT form and the requirements to post. Now we can look at a solid discussion on tricky spots from players who have a proven track record and not clog up threads with guys that don't have much experience saying ' you gotta fold AK with 10bb its not a made hand morons'. Even though I cannot post there yet I think it is a great add.

I for one hope frank1the1tank will start posting more in there!

[bbbbb33]

 

Originally Posted by FenwayKing

you can already see the difference in the hsmtt forum...people who like never post are posting detailed thought-out responses. that never happened on p5s anymore except for rare threads.

this is wayyyyyyyy better

if everyone could post on there, it'd become like PD again---all the high stakes players would be oi the discussion cuz for every good response there'd be 15 retarded ones.

the badge limit they're using is pretty wide already as frank/nate pointed out

kind of disagree.. not to be a huge dick but i dont see why its beneficical for anyone to contribute to HSMTT forum... feel like a lot of times people are gonna be leveling or misleading about their actual thoughts and hand postings, idk just reasons why I'm skeptical.

edit: and those who don't have rankings or 500k badges, read, learn, and obtaining one should become a lot easier. which again is where my discomfort lies.

just saying how i feel, feel free to berate me. Edited By: bbbbb33 Mar 23rd, 2011 at 07:56 PM