Really tough spot here guys as i never want someones name to be dragged through the mud but i have been left with no other choice due to lack of action. I will be name dropping on 3 people here and its just to notify the community that these people shouldn't be trusted. I entered backing deals with these people and have gone months without any contact or effort from these people to pay me the money that is owed. Any suggestions on how i should be going about getting my money back from these people is appreciated. Now to the meat and potatoes.

PETE LUBRANO: Screen names are PETEGOTAPLAN, PETEHASAPLAN, - My records show he owes 10k and that's not counting any of the 20k he shipped in the MINI-ftops 2nd place that he got while still working with my roll in his account. This guy never had the decency to leave the deal just figured he would beat me on the money and ride off into the sunset.

JOHN GULIANO*: Screen names are ITSNOTTHECARDS (FTP) , 2.7acequeen (PS), Last name may not be spelled correctly goes by JOHNG21 on p5s -My records show that he owes 10K. I will say that he at least had the decency to let me know he was looking for another deal and planned to leave our deal that we had in place and this was fine but i wanted the account cleaned before he started a new deal with another backer.

These 2 guys above are linked together at the hip due to the fact that they lived right next door to one another and are best friends. I entered backing deals with both while with both of them and told them if they didn't like the deal i was giving them then not to take it. The deal i had with them and the only deal ive ever entered was a 50-50 with MU. I would send them BR to play and they would send me half of anything over a 3K cash cleaning MU first, then getting there half of winnings after MU is even.

TYLER T. : Screen names are ONETIME08 (FTP), TJWSOP08 (PS), My records show that he owes 1200, this kid lived in canada and i planned on cleaning his account out completly and close deal due to BF, But he decided to do it himself and take a trip to las vegas and find a way to pay me back after he got home, needless to say he never paid it back.

Not sure what will happen with these people but wanted to make sure no one else got ripped off by these people if it could be avoided.

To the people named above, you guys are to blame for this not me. I was trying to provide you guys BR in order to play MTT's you never would've been afforded the luxury of playing if not for a backer. I guess my biggest question is how can you fuck up what the word HALF means, meaning you get half of profits but need to send me my half as well. My biggest issue is that PETE N JOHN think that i owed them for some sort of coaching that they provided me which is just LOL. These 2 had trained with some good players highly respected in the poker world. I am not saying they didn't help improve my game but to say they don't owe me my money cause they trained me is pathetic excuse to not pay up on the stake that was provided to them. I will leave it here and hope this is as muddy as it gets. I was torn about if i should do something like this or not but i feel like this needed to be aired if not only to protect others from getting scammed.

Pete and John pay back the money u owe. For someone to offer u half of the profit with yourself providing zero risk just your time is a hell of a deal. As for "coaching fee" thats bs consider your coaching fee just simply backing them...I hate people who have bad communication. OF course this is all IMO..

TYLER TAMBOLINE: Screen names are ONETIME08 (FTP), TJWSOP08 (PS), My records show that he owes 1200, this kid lived in canada and i planned on cleaning his account out completly and close deal due to BF, But he decided to do it himself and take a trip to las vegas and find a way to pay me back after he got home, needless to say he never paid it back.


This retard applied for my coaching/backing group. Him and a close friend of his joined, received an initial transfer of $500, and never showed up again. Pretty dumb considering that he would likely be receiving bigger amounts in a short period of time. Hey, if you're gonna take money from people, at least have your name dragged over a decent amount.

pete? really?

outright

Nasty, I recently started something similar- and was taken for about 3k- Ive yet to make it public giving the guy sometimes to honor and replace the funds.

Tough times,

Hopefully things workout for you buddy!

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got em

really sad to read storys like that every day.. What the fuck is wrong with all these guys. People wanted to help you and you fuck them up... Don�t get it.

 

Originally Posted by Darkowa

Yeah poker has a pretty bad name without all these story's. stars should have like a year long ban or stn so there's a strong signal that shit like isn't cool.

I like the idea, something where people think twice about scamming, cheating, multiaccountig w.e.

Is it just me or has BF sent some reputable players off the deep end?? I guess they're justifying being scumbags because of these desperate times....

 

Originally Posted by Andrew

Is it just me or has BF sent some reputable players off the deep end?? I guess they're justifying being scumbags because of these desperate times....

I don't think its any more or less than before black friday. If you go to any staking site, you will see alot of banned members, some of which were banned for rolling alot of money.

 

Originally Posted by random.chu

pete? really?

outright

QJFTW

No offense to anyone here that has lost money, but I think its a ridiculous idea for poker sites to ban anyone based on personal relationships. I don't understand why people want more and more regulation in their lives. The number one rule people should know about money is if you lend it out you shouldn't expect it back.

Especially from a business stand point they are cutting off their own customer base, I really don't believe any poker websites should care if player A lent player B 100 bucks and player B never paid back, that has nothing to do with them.

Understand that poker is a game that involves money to win more money, obviously people are going to do anything they can to get such money, if you trust people to much in order to lend out money that is your personal choice and personal risk.

More people need to learn how to say no, or if they take this risk they should assume the responsibility, making the online community aware that certain people are willing to take money and run is fine but to bring business into personal dealings please no.

petehasaplan is next too me all the time at the tbls
this tyler dude just looks trustworthy..........................NOT

The problem is that if the sites do this, then they endorse staking. Right now, most sites just tolerate it. The best thing would be if staking parameters could be entered into a site like stars enforcing the money movement after the game is done. This would allow more staking in cash games where more trust is needed because people can lie about results. Unless the sites themselves endorse staking, you are never going to see the sites have rules about people rolling on others or being scummy like Pete, John and Tyler were. I am guessing John and Pete are guilty of what the OP has said because they must by now know of this thread and chose not to respond.

Petehasaplan is at one of my tables ATM on merge...

I will ask him if he knows of this thread etc....

No reply from Pete when questioned....