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Edited By: Gags30 Dec 31st, 2011 at 07:24 AMi tried like 9 different lines in that hand, he only pays off like a super tiny river bit from what i can tellOriginally Posted by gar2garvin
$1168 & 137, 4x the KT pre, bet flop big then c/r turn like 3x, can't get much on river tho
Originally Posted by gar2garvin
$1168 & 137, 4x the KT pre, bet flop big then c/r turn like 3x, can't get much on river tho
i think i figured out how to get the most value that hand...not saying it's best score...but you def get the most money from him...4x pre...bet $16 on flop, check the turn, he'll bet $29, you check/raise to $113...then bet $39 on the river and he'll pay that off. if you bet $1 more on any street he'll just fold, so that seems like the most you can get that hand, $176
not sure why i'm so obsessed with this stupid thing...just totally cheated and did as much as i could to try to end with the most money, managed to end with $2598. i iso'd like every hand possible and tried to exploit bet sizing as much as possible, like if i knew someone folded to a 3rd bet i'd bet like 1/20th of pot just to get some extra money from them
pretty sure i could do a little better, but i think i've done this thing enough
oh ya, my iq when i made that much money was 102, lol
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1977/115, playing questionably and running hot. Boy it's fun flopping that many sets. That was fun, someone post another one!
Edited By: the_dean22 Jan 5th, 2012 at 05:31 PM
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Your PokerIQScore is 132
And I ended up with $1124 -
$947 - 127
Poker would be so easy if you could run that good.
With QQ against pro pete i was thinking fold fold fold, but somehow my body conspired to push the call button by itself. -
I got an e-mail today letting me sit their MTT test for free as I'd sat their other one - see http://www.pocketfives.com/f10016/te...ker-iq-655414/ .
PokerIQScore is 117!
I scored 134 on last one. Damn! lol. -
ship it.
"In order for us to analyze your game and give you the best advice, we require that players take the test seriously.
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$1878/92 ahahaha -
damn there's an mtt one!?!? ship the link
Originally Posted by 2JL
I got an e-mail today letting me sit their MTT test for free as I'd sat their other one - see http://www.pocketfives.com/f10016/te...ker-iq-655414/ .
PokerIQScore™ is 117!
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LOL gags can't get enough! +1 link
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First time through I was somewhere in the 1200/118 range...
Tried getting absolute max value in some of the most ridiculous ways and got it up to $4369 at a 93 IQ. Took some absolutely ridiculous lines and many attempts to get that high... Do stupid shit when work is slow :) -
Your PokerIQScore is 52
NUT LOW BABY!!! -
I was warned that this thread contained spoilers, so I started off doing the quiz 'honestly'.
Edited By: Liquid_Eyes Jan 11th, 2012 at 04:37 AM
However after missing a load of value in a couple of hands, I did the same as Gags30 and got hooked on repeating the test, trying stupid lines to maximise $$$$! Semi-defeating the object I know, but compulsive...
The experience reminds me of playing those 1990's 2D scrolling shoot-'em-up computer games, you know the ones where the 'skill' is essentially to play the game over and over again, getting a little bit further each time before being inevitably killed, memorising where all the baddies come from and maximising how many power-ups you get...! -
Trust me, you have to take some silly lines!
Edited By: Liquid_Eyes Jan 11th, 2012 at 11:04 PM
You can win nearly every hand, ironically with the exception of some of the decent starting hands like AQ QQ JJ.
Examples of daft shit you can do to maximise profit:
* You can raise pre-flop in some really stupid spots, to build the pot when you 'know' you are gonna make the best hand by the river. E.g. you should min-raise 66 (around hand #8) pre-flop, and similarly (around halfway through the test) you can min-3-bet 97s. Near the end of the test, you can raise to $14 OOP with your 73o, which still keeps the key villain in the pot!!
* 73o flopped boat - you can stack the guy if you raise to make it $14 pre, make a small bet on the flop then size your bet correctly on the turn.
* T5o, blind on blind - you can induce a 3-bet then get him to bluff off most of his stack post-flop. He bets flop, you float OOP then make a weak donk-lead on the turn to build the pot, then check-jam the river. If you've got the bet sizes right he folds his King-high with $28 behind!
* There are at least 2 other hands where it seems you make the most money by inducing bluffs, then floating or rebluffing.
* As you've probably noticed, you can win some hands pre by over-jamming and inducing the villain to fold the best hand, in spots where I don't think you can win post-flop.
* There's a guy (at the top-right I think?) who spews in several hands. E.g. you can get him to 3-bet TT over your 52o, but he folds to a shove. Obviously the key to maximising your profit in this and similar hands is making your opening bet as large as possible. Likewise a guy opens AK but insanely folds to any 3-bet (when you have 96o). He even folds to a min-3-bet, when he has position. WTF!
* There are at least 3 hands where I think you make the most by limping pre rather than isolating. 87s and KQo spring to mind.
* You may have noticed some quirks of the artificial intelligence... e.g. there are several hands where the villain will fold to a shove, but he WILL call if you bet an amount that leaves him with just $1.
Check-raise flop to $31. Check-raise turn to $115. Value-bet river $43. This way you take him for *nearly* his whole stack. I can't get the tight-arse to hand over his last $3!Originally Posted by Gags30
i tried like 9 different lines in that [KTo straight] hand, he only pays off like a super tiny river bit from what i can tell
i think i figured out how to get the most value that hand...not saying it's best score...but you def get the most money from him...4x pre...bet $16 on flop, check the turn, he'll bet $29, you check/raise to $113...then bet $39 on the river and he'll pay that off. -
oh wow you went nuts with this. ya i mean i did that for the first like 10 hands or wahtever. it's funny, you mention hands like that 97s, i never got to the river of that hand, i'm assuming we get there? cause my line that i always took was just the actual line that i took when i played it the first time, i 3b pre, bet the flop and shoved the turn...
Originally Posted by Liquid_Eyes
Trust me, you have to take some silly lines!
You can win nearly every hand, ironically with the exception of some of the decent starting hands like AQ QQ JJ.
Examples of daft shit you can do to maximise profit:
* You can raise pre-flop in some really stupid spots, to build the pot when you 'know' you are gonna make the best hand by the river. E.g. you should min-raise 66 (around hand #8) pre-flop, and similarly (around halfway through the test) you can min-3-bet 97s. Near the end of the test, you can raise to $14 OOP with your 73o, which still keeps the key villain in the pot!!
* 73o flopped boat - you can stack the guy if you raise to make it $14 pre, make a small bet on the flop then size your bet correctly on the turn.
* T5o, blind on blind - you can induce a 3-bet then get him to bluff off most of his stack post-flop. He bets flop, you float OOP then make a weak donk-lead on the turn to build the pot, then check-jam the river. If you've got the bet sizes right he folds his King-high with $28 behind!
* There are at least 2 other hands where it seems you make the most money by inducing bluffs, then floating or rebluffing.
* As you've probably noticed, you can win some hands pre by over-jamming and inducing the villain to fold the best hand, in spots where I don't think you can win post-flop.
* There's a guy (at the top-right I think?) who spews in several hands. E.g. you can get him to 3-bet TT over your 52o, but he folds to a shove. Obviously the key to maximising your profit in this and similar hands is making your opening bet as large as possible. Likewise a guy opens AK but insanely folds to any 3-bet (when you have 96o). He even folds to a min-3-bet, when he has position. WTF!
* There are at least 3 hands where I think you make the most by limping pre rather than isolating. 87s and KQo spring to mind.
* You may have noticed some quirks of the artificial intelligence... e.g. there are several hands where the villain will fold to a shove, but he WILL call if you bet an amount that leaves him with just $1.
i know you can like open the button with i think ti's T5o and then 4b the bb's 3b and he folds...i never put the time in to like get to post flop and see what happens and stuff. mainly cause these hands are so deep into the test that i would just get bored going through them all again
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You should have got an e-mail?
I think it's only accessable via the e-mail? -
Raise $7 pre. (Kinda crazy OOP... though IMO not totally without merit v a spineless opponent you can just bully post-flop in big pots?)
Originally Posted by Gags30
i think the strangest hand in the whole test is the 75o hand from the bb...weak wendy limps and it comes 943r...if you bet flop, bet turn, and bet river, she calls you down with A8cc...but if you check flop and then just bet the turn, she just folds the turn...like, wtf?
Bet $18 flop / $38 turn, to keep her in the pot.
Pot the river and she folds. Mwu-ha-ha-haaaa.
Min-reraise pre.Originally Posted by Gags30
oh wow you went nuts with this. ya i mean i did that for the first like 10 hands or wahtever. it's funny, you mention hands like that 97s, i never got to the river of that hand, i'm assuming we get there?
Pot the flop.
If you bet just $23 on the turn, the decent player sticks around with AQ, and I think the weak girl overcalls.
Now you can jam your flush and the guy calls with his rivered Q.
Mwu-ha-ha... ahem.








