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This is ridic close. Im betting both of these guys wont do much sleeping/partying this last day of the year. GL to them both.
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wizowizo is 1/13 in the 22 cubed now....gl ur dead....ship the nightly 40k. lol
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wow, sick how they are both deep in so many tourney right now
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Uaredead is 2-4 in a 8.80 6 max 4k and 2-4 in the nightly 40k.
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stars have taken all their guarantees off for today so looks like uaredead won't have a chance to claw it back
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sick. was def rooting for uaredead but v difficult w no guarantees today
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If you guys read the 2p2 thread then you'd know that loluaredead hasn't had the lead for over a month due to point disqualification. The numbers posted above aren't accurate.
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Originally Posted by Pghfan987
Imagine how much money those two would make at poker if they weren't absolutely terrible at playing poker.
rlly not trying to attack you personally or anything just dont get your comment.
sure there are a ton of players with better skills (specially comparing to uaredead) but both of them are profitable online poker grinders who both deserve respect for their work ethik and nice results in 2011.
I mean wizo is up almost 350k on stars only - he can not be that bad? -
wizo and pgh just have contrasting styles, its normal to think a diff style is bad and he does make some crazy moves/mistakes, but hes still very good
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Edited By: Gags30 Dec 31st, 2011 at 06:53 PMOriginally Posted by socrates555
rlly not trying to attack you personally or anything just dont get your comment.
sure there are a ton of players with better skills (specially comparing to uaredead) but both of them are profitable online poker grinders who both deserve respect for their work ethik and nice results in 2011.
I mean wizo is up almost 350k on stars only - he can not be that bad?
i really know nothing about either of these players, and i'm not talking about either of them in particular....
however...just because someone is up a lot of money doesn't mean that they're good at poker. a lot of these super grinders are very very marginal marginal winners at the game. they have extremely small roi's and frankly just are very basic and not that good. with that being said, they play a TON of tournaments, and really grind out that edge, and wind up making a tonnnnn of money because of it.
edit: a quick opr of uaredead will show that he's played nearly 50,000 tournaments this year alone on stars...i was never a huge grinder, but i put in some volume...my lifetime tourneys on stars are under 10,000.....
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uaredead is deftl an exceptional case and the above is applicable to his stats however wizo has a 62% ROI over 20k games and his abi is 75$
Edited By: socrates555 Dec 31st, 2011 at 07:02 PM
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that being said I only analyze their stats and understand that am not in the position to judge their abilities like pgh or gags. -
Originally Posted by Gags30
i really know nothing about either of these players, and i'm not talking about either of them in particular....
however...just because someone is up a lot of money doesn't mean that they're good at poker. a lot of these super grinders are very very marginal marginal winners at the game. they have extremely small roi's and frankly just are very basic and not that good. with that being said, they play a TON of tournaments, and really grind out that edge, and wind up making a tonnnnn of money because of it.
edit: a quick opr of uaredead will show that he's played nearly 50,000 tournaments this year alone on stars...i was never a huge grinder, but i put in some volume...my lifetime tourneys on stars are under 10,000.....
loooool.....so over a year this works out to be 137 tourneys every day which is about 6 per hour - beastly -
Playing with uaredead lol right now with one left he is about 150 points shy of the lead and will do anything to bubble him lol
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uaredead lol is bad, like everyone else while 50tabling! he obv knows what he's doing and why he is doing. not winning the tlb is just wow....... feel rly sry for him, rly sick grinder.
wizowizo is not terrible! agree he made some strange shoves. but his volume + abi + roi is just sick! he's def a sicko and is def not a basic average player with a ton of vokume. i read some advice from him in a german forum and he's def a great player and knows exactly what he's doing. plus he has a volume that is more or less realistic for one single person.
not sure about uaredead. could also be that there are two guys, and one of them is good and showed the other guy how to play and the other guy makes all those stupid mistakes people are talking about.
so sick that wizo won.......... i mean im happy for him etc but after playing like 50k tourneys in one fkn year and sitting there like robot for 365 days and doing such a hard work this is just sick. just imagine how u would feel... almost have to puke. no disrespect to wizo but think uaredead had the lead for like the whole year and suddenly he's 2nd. wizo's ships today have a lot to do with it i guess. -
Excuse my ignorance but how much cash value difference is it between 1st and 2nd?
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i think 20k dollars (2 stamps to main events)? dont know how many 10ks there are, if it's only EPt, PCA and WSOP MEs then it's prolly less difference since the 2nd gonna pick the three most expensive most likely. but i dont really think it's that much about the difference. either ure the winner or ure the runner up! for you or me it prolly isn't a big difference but for both of them it's a very big deal, ure not playing 60k mtts in a year to finish second.
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Congrats to wizo. The guy plays well and grinds hard. Congrats to uaredead lol for grinding hard.
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this lol
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Best post of the year!!
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