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AP Casino Keno is rigged..

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  1. salesbeast salesbeast is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 5:32pm)

    Seems so...and NO I am not shocked..thanks to NoahSD's work on this.

    http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/ap_keno/

    Absolute Poker Rigged Keno: Five Months Later with No Compensation and a False Explanation, and How This Relates to Superusers and Joe Sebok

    Cereus is in the news again, as UB sponsored pro and tweeter extraordinaire Joe Sebok has finally made a 2p2 account to talk about various things. Frankly, reading those threads is just about the most frustrating possible use of one’s time, but for the masochists in the audience, please accept my flower of links:
    Basically, what’s going on currently is an argument between Joe and 2p2 in which Joe insists that current Cereus management is clean and 2p2 argues otherwise. (Much of it might actually come down to Joe’s rather lax definition of cleanliness, actually.) Needless to say, the UB/AP superuser scandal is an incredibly big deal. But, it’s so painfully nuanced, complicated, and shrouded in mystery that answering a simple question like “Is Cereus currently run by a bunch of crooks?” is amazingly difficult. So, I’m going to leave the larger scandal to the professionals and sidestep the issue entirely to discuss a much much smaller on-going scandal: Absolute Poker’s rigged keno game and their response. I think that that scandal deserves some more publicity in its own right (and it’s entirely my fault that it has not gotten enough), but I also think it should provide some perspective on the current discussion.

    much more in the link provided...
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Jun 9th, 2011 at 06:56 PM
    Reason: editted to first paragraph since full text iof an article is not allowed on the boards
  2. gimp0 gimp0 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 6:21pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    keno fuckin sucks
  3. xxbossmanxx xxbossmanxx is offline Plays poker like a X-Boxxx

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 6:25pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    UB FTW
  4. dpitts06 dpitts06 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 6:28pm) in reply to xxbossmanxx

    lol @ keno
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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 8:34pm) in reply to dpitts06

    keno is the real game of skill ,so how much did u lose to figure this out. i would of used the martingale theory till i broke even ..........................N O T
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  6. StayCalm StayCalm is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 9:28pm) in reply to double_kyan

    I thought someone figured this out back in like 2007. Either way shouldn't be playing keno live or online, its always a losing game.
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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 9:46pm) in reply to StayCalm

    lol. People play keno online?
     
  8. Sweet Call Sweet Call is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 9:57pm) in reply to gar2garvin

    an online casino that is rigged? I don't believe it.
     
  9. allynlong allynlong is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2011 (3/27/2011 4:59pm) in reply to Sweet Call

    Same software is used at BoDog, Sportsbook.com, Bet365, betfair, Carib Sportsbook, Hollywood Sportsbook, PlayersOnlySportsbook and about 20 more.....

    So i think the theory this is a Cereus owned company is nuts, plus a simple google search shows exactly who they (betsoft) are......
  10. BodogBecky BodogBecky is offline Official BodogBrand Rep

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    Mar 28th, 2011 (3/28/2011 5:06pm) in reply to allynlong

     
    Originally Posted by allynlong View Post

    Same software is used at BoDog, Sportsbook.com, Bet365, betfair, Carib Sportsbook, Hollywood Sportsbook, PlayersOnlySportsbook and about 20 more.....

    So i think the theory this is a Cereus owned company is nuts, plus a simple google search shows exactly who they (betsoft) are......

    Hey guys, just to set the facts straight, bodog casino has its own proprietary software. BodogBrand acquired the rights to the RTG Casino source code in early 2007 and since then the product has been significantly enhanced and developed. Today, the casino platform licensed to the Bodog brand licensees is effectively a wholly proprietary product.

    Thanks and let me know if you have any q's!
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    Apr 6th, 2011 (4/6/2011 2:54pm) in reply to BodogBecky

    ty for posting this, but I'd prefer it if you didn't quote such a large part of the post in the OP.
  12. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Apr 6th, 2011 (4/6/2011 3:14pm) in reply to nsd4eva

    In this instance, the part of the OP quoted was pertinent to the point the Bodog site representative was making.
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    Jun 9th, 2011 (6/9/2011 6:28pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

    i played keno proffessionally for 12 months in australia, i won over a million and studied the RNG over 18 hours a day, i came to the same conclusion that the game is rigged, i think i could provide enough evidence that would leave no doubt and the only fair conclusion one could make is that RNG software has been tampered with, i loved your article and intend to investigate further, i have been away from keno for a few years but have been considering a come back as the money is all gone, with a friend of mine we are developing some of our own RNG software and hope to benefit from that,, the only fair way to play keno is to put the balls back in the barrel, anything less is a compromise that punters should not accept, i have played keno in north america and think the game is a joke with regards to dividends, maybe we need a world wide keno club that gives accreditation to on line and casino keno, and by doing that we can push out the theives and give the punters back their rights,, this is the first time i have seen your forum and i would like to discuss further the great keno swindle, so i hope i can read more and if there are any links please let me know,, cheers from australia
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    Jun 9th, 2011 (6/9/2011 6:34pm) in reply to gar2garvin

     
    Originally Posted by gimp0 View Post

    keno fuckin sucks

     
    Originally Posted by xxbossmanxx View Post

    UB FTW

     
    Originally Posted by dpitts06 View Post

    lol @ keno

     
    Originally Posted by gar2garvin View Post

    lol. People play keno online?

    Think we will be getting alot more of these comments. Congrats tho on the $1m.
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  15. hook hook is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2011 (6/9/2011 6:34pm) in reply to hook

    hello from australia, i liked your article,, i left a post on here somewhere under the name HOOK , let me know if you have anymore stuff about keno or any links,, cheers
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    Jun 9th, 2011 (6/9/2011 6:43pm) in reply to hook

     
    Originally Posted by hook View Post

    i played keno proffessionally for 12 months in australia, i won over a million

    lol, this can't be real
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  17. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Jun 9th, 2011 (6/9/2011 6:54pm) in reply to tyson219

     
    Originally Posted by tyson219 View Post

    lol, this can't be real

    I'm guessing not, but if it is congrats. Also, his location via his IP isn't Australia, so if he isn't telling the truth about one thing, good chance the $1m isn't real.
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  18. NechitaCC NechitaCC is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2011 (6/12/2011 8:43am) in reply to wackyJaxon

    LOLOL this is awesome.

    Like id say maybe 8 or 9 months ago i was pretty drunk one night so i decided to wander into the UB casino and low and behold i started playing keno. I knew immediately that it was rigged/something was wrong with the software because you couldnt win or lose. I played for like a half hour and i would literally break even every hand, i even told my gf to come watch me play and told her exactly what numbers were going to come out and that no matter what i did we would always be even. I tried it over the next few days just to see if it was in fact the same and sure enough it was. I didnt try to play it again till months after and saw that it had been removed from the casino and found out from someone one a nl table that it was indeed rigged lolol, gotta love ub.
  19. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Jun 12th, 2011 (6/12/2011 2:46pm) in reply to NechitaCC

    An internet-casino is rigged? A UB internet-casino too? No way??? Those guys are the best in the business!!!
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    Jun 12th, 2011 (6/12/2011 5:02pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    You'd think people would have learned to not put money on AP by now...
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