i def agree

Hi,

Rakeback is offered as an incentive for new players to sign up, which is why there generally aren't offers out there for existing players.
It really is unfair in a lot of ways that existing players aren't able to take advantage of it, but unfortunately there's nothing we can do about that...

 

Originally Posted by ComebackShane

What's so strange is to me, Rakeback has always seemed like a better retention program than it is a draw for new players. Generally speaking, the more advanced, seasoned players are the ones interested in getting back their rake (or that even realize there is such a thing); deposit bonuses always seemed like the better way to attract new players (nothing like '$500 FREE' to bring in the fish).

I think if we can ever get online poker explicitly legalized in the US, the competition that would result from new companies would probably help us get better deals than anything. The big sites would have to find a way to keep us. Just another reason to spend more time in the 'Poker Legislation' page.

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I definitely don't disagree with you guys. That said, we have to work within the boundaries of the system.

 

Originally Posted by Cptn_Squishy

yeah, but when i started i had no idea how to get the most out of promotions and was only really able to work the system (RB on FTP and bonuses on Abs) after a decent amount of experience, and i doubt many of the players care about doing that much research.

obviously, people shouldnt try to violate their TOS just for more rakeback (as i recall it didnt work out too well for jon little), but anybody who wants to play online for the first time should ask questions...

I have been very tempted to play on another players account for a long time in order to get rake back and morally I wouldn't really have a problem with doing so, I just don't want the risk of being caught and the hassle of covering my tracks. So I try to play most of my action on Stars (FPP's = rakeback) and almost never play a cash game on Full Tilt, but I still end up playing a ton of tournaments on Full Tilt and I have lost thousands because I don't have rakeback. I do seem to run very well on Full Tilt and horrible on Stars, so maybe they turn on the boomswitch for the high volume rake payers, that don't have rakeback :). I have rakeback on UB and although I feel that it is likely that their site is safe, I really don't want to give them my business for obvious reasons, Helmuth included.
So I'm stuck playing on Stars where the players are better, playing on a site that turned 2 blind eyes to cheating and that end endorses 2 of my least favorite poker players, Helmuth and Duke, (I always disliked pokerho as well just because I thought that he played really bad), or playing Full Tilt with no rakeback. If Full Tilt would give me rakeback I would give them 75% of my action as opposed to 25%. I'm sure increasing my volume by 200% would be worth it in exchange for only getting 73% of my revenue, it is not like there is a ton of variable cost associated with my account, if volume increases by 200%, the cost to handle my specific account would not increase but much, if any.