Just saw this on the other forum. A NY times reporter who has been posting there says--

"Actually, the original version was much longer and more detailed, but it had to be cut for space reasons. Regarding Absolute Poker - I was told they're about to roll out a program "shortly" to reimburse US players. The exec. emphasized this several times."

Was going to post the link but figured it wasn't allowed. If you google " Can we discuss Cereus specifically" it can be found very easy.

Pls post the link, links are allowed, posting too much of the content is not.

I doubt thats going to happen.
F UB.

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

Pls post the link, links are allowed, posting too much of the content is not.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=38

 

Originally Posted by northkato

they havent responded to my last 4 emails... so idk. not too hopeful, but i'm happy to hear SOMETHING.

if you're referring to the 2+2 post it could be a troll.

Just because she has 15 posts doesn't mean you should assume that.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...6&postcount=33

id strongly doubt it, glad i didnt ever make a ub/ap account. but anyone know what they owe? maybe it's not that bad relative to ftps situation.

Sigh poker players are soooo lazy. She came to 22 to find a few players to interview,including Livb or Oliver Busquet who's post i linked in my above. She then released this article -
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/te...game.html?_r=1
Doubt you guys even read the article,prob just assume the NY Times isn't real next. Its pretty clear that she has spoken with AP executives but I guess she 'could' be 'trolling' about what they told her.

 

Originally Posted by stlboy05

Sigh poker players are soooo lazy. She came to 22 to find a few players to interview,including Livb or Oliver Busquet who's post i linked in my above. She then released this article - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/te...ewanted=2&_r=1

Doubt you guys even read the article,prob just assume the NY Times isn't real next.

I read the article and found a couple of things that were less than accurate. Logically I don't see how AP/UB can pay when they supposedly owe 5X more than cash they have on hand at last rumor with no-one logically wanting to invest in them. I mean, I hope something happens, but I am not going to base my hopes on a poster on 2+2 that may or may not be the writer of the NYT article.

The article was first posted yesterday in this thread, but won't merge the threads since it seems different topics are being discussed about the article.

I have reason to believe that the NY Times author knows less than people in the poker industry do. No-one with knowledge of the industry would write this for example. I don't know if the 2+2 poster is the same person as the author of the article, but in either case I consider it to be hear-say as I don't trust the NY Times to report poker news with any sort of accuracy.

 

However this scandal plays out — Full Tilt and its executives have denied wrongdoing — the Internet poker debate is now stretching from the tables of Las Vegas to the halls of Congress. (Absolute Poker and pokerstars are reimbursing American players; PokerStars denies that it broke laws, and Absolute said it would not be appropriate to comment on the case.)

The issue with her statement is that the only source is the AP exec. she talked to. I don't know about everyone else in the poker community, but unless I see facts and details, I don't believe anything an AP exec. has to say.

I trust that she was told this info by the AP exec. However, I won't believe it's true until specific details are released that lend some credibility to the statements from the exec.

for what it's worth, every single email response i have received from ub/ap has resulted in them telling me they were close to paying out. working diligently etc. top priority. i'm not trying to be a downer, just trying to be realistic.

 

Originally Posted by tyson219

The issue with her statement is that the only source is the AP exec. she talked to. I don't know about everyone else in the poker community, but unless I see facts and details, I don't believe anything an AP exec. has to say.

I trust that she was told this info by the AP exec. However, I won't believe it's true until specific details are released that lend some credibility to the statements from the exec.

Pretty much this^^. I read the NYT's authors other thread and it does seem like she is legit. Oliver Busquiet and Rich Muney from the PPA confirmed that they spoke with her over the phone about her NYT article. I just cannot see a reason why she would be making this up, but of course the credibility of the source is questionable. We really cannot trust anything an AP exec is saying.

btw tyson I think your second chance thread is a kevmode thread in disguise...congrats on the win though. And my vote is for #3.

Yep, here goes my ONE TIME!

I find it hard to believe there is any chance of paying back US players, or any players period.
They are a completely cash strapped company and can't even pay non-americans a measley max cashout of $250.
It's been 2 months now since requesting my peanuts and still no sign of the $$$, and only bs autoresponse emails.
I hope I am wrong and magically a boat load of dough shows up to pay all players, but right now it seems the well has run dry imo.

 

Originally Posted by kid duke10

when you guys are just talkin about AP that counts for both AP/UB right? :O

title of thread is cereus = ap/ub :)

 

Originally Posted by Mr_BigQueso

yea UB/AP, embarrass FTP. feel free to compete harder for your loyal clientele now than ever before. just do the right thing, guys!

plan b-- congress.

 

Originally Posted by sirswish6

heard eurolinx is paying back too

This is why I never post here,a bunch of smart asses have to comment every time.

 

Originally Posted by stlboy05

This is why I never post here,a bunch of smart asses have to comment every time.

this is the most unproductive comment in the thread.