Reading all this makes my situation even odder.

2 weeks after black Friday I used all my fpp points to play 3 mtts. Shipped 3rd place in $69 when thought I was free rolling and would never see any of the $2,000.

Had to deposit $10 from new bank card to even attempt withdraw the money.

One week before the site was taken completely offline they paid me $1.8k.

So if they were operating a semi ponzi scheme and already knew they were going to get charged by doj as they had no out why would they pay out on a late withdrawal.

Confused.

Here's our latest update on the FTP situation, focusing on how the Ponzi scheme label has ignited calls for legalized and regulated online poker in the US:
http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...-poker-586797/

Also, here's an update on the Alderney hearing, which is filled with inside info from a P5s source about what some of the possible outcomes are:
http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...t-agcc-586798/

chris "jesus" ferguson. more like chris"i really need jesus now" ferguson

Amazing how everyone is blaming FT for this mess. This is all the work of the U.S. govt, they are the reason why our money is gone.

And you if know and understand how the U.S. govt works, what they do when they want to get away with robbing or killing someone is to first try and gain the moral authority. Once they got you with their smoke and mirrors, they are free to do as they wish and then 5-10 later everyone cries about how they got tricked once again.

This process repeats itself again and again. Wars, The Budget Deficits, Change? From your new president, I don't think so. Wise up people.

It is sad but FTP was "Ponzi scheme" from begining and they do that right under our noses and smiles in our faces. Heres is the prove. FTP stands for FUCK THE PLAYERS. So like we all now see it was so simple and so devious.

Isn't Ifrah the same guy representing the scammers? You trust anything he says? lol you need some serious help if you believe that article.

 

Originally Posted by pockets1975

You can't tell me though that at least some of these sites are/were sitting their own inside people at the tables to alleviate some of the cash crunch issue! It always amazed me how much zany stuff used to happen right at the money bubble, like going all in under the gun for 20bb and having it fold around to some dude who'd been a rock up to that point, snap calling with like 8-4 suited and mysteriously felting you. I know this is going to get filed under more "paranoid" ranting but everything else I've also suggested was shady through the years - only to be told I was crazy - has slowly been proven correct. Plus, I am a winning player. And I know when something stinks - if it looks like a turd and smells like a turd, it's probably a turd.

kinda like this post

So lets join forces and create a reply that we can copy-paste back to our friends.

A bunch of my friends have emailed me with links to the story, i guess they dont know that this is old news in the poker world.

Civil. Not criminal

I find it hard to believe that poker players are showing up to play and support the epic poker league which is run by Howards sister. Wouldn't it be easy to assume that he has his hand in that league as well? I'm not sure what it took to get that league going, but maybe Howard funded it with the missing loot from full tilt? I could be way off, just a thought. Still, if I had a significant amount of money locked up on full tilt, the last tournament i'd ever play would be one run by Howard's sister. Has there been any confrontations with annie at one of these tourneys yet, or not?

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

Annie was one of the HUGEST UB schills, but somehow UB/Absolute stays out of the news. I would love to see her dragged through the mud or the stuff she was saying in the past about UB. Seems a bit hypocritical in a way that her league bans her brother because of FTP, but she is in the clear about UB when there is a good chance she knew about the shadyness going on there.

But Howard was an owner of FTP and one of the 4 people that made decisions at the company... Annie was just a paid face at UB, from what I understand. There is a huge difference here.

 

Originally Posted by donkiman

But Howard was an owner of FTP and one of the 4 people that made decisions at the company... Annie was just a paid face at UB, from what I understand. There is a huge difference here.

Definitely agree there is a difference. I am going to quote a couple of Annie's posts though. She went beyond just a face of the company and tried to convince people UB was "now" ethical after the super user scandal. She went beyond just wearing the patch of UB in my opinion, and the same can be said of Joe Sebok (if not more so).

 

Originally Posted by annie duke

This assumes that a) you know what my financial interets are and b) that my ethics can be bought. I won't address b) too much because while my ethics can't be bought and I find the suggestion offensive I doubt I could ever convince you of that. But as to a) I am a paid employee of Ultimate Bet. I could walk away to another site and get paid by them. As I was making my decision I knew I could walk away, indignant, go to another site and get paid what I was paid by UB. I made my decision without benefit of ownership or upside in the health of the company. Even so, even if I did own a piece of the company, I would have walked away if I felt this was being handled in an unethical way (but again that is hypothetical and I don't expect you to believe me there). The facts are the facts, I made my decision as a salaried employee with no ownership benefit whatsoever. I could have gone and gotten another salary from another site instead of sticking up for this brand. And frankly that would have been the easier choice.

As for where was I last week during all the evidence being released I stated that I felt it was not my place to comment on something the company had not commented on yet and I certainly don't think it is my place to confirm or deny the indentity of the cheater.

Also, the legal pursuits of UB as to the cheater are very real and everyone has to be very careful about what we say at this point in time. Its really important that any new information comes from the executive team in order to not jeopardize any legal recourse.

Annie

 

Originally Posted by annie duke

I am not going to respond too much to these kinds of post but I will say this...I was quiet on the issue because I am not conducting the investigation. I have a specific job to do and am trying to do it to the best of my ability. I love this brand and I would not have gotten involved to the level I have if I were not satisfied with the way the investigation is being conducted. I am really please with the change in UB. The new management is awesome. They have tremendouse integrity. They inherited the investigation and have been doing a great job with the burden of that, IMO. Take that for what you will.

I am done commenting now.

Annie

My problem with Annie was not that she was just a paid ambassador of UB, but that it came out that she went to Russ and asked for a loan so she could buy her dream house. Russ helped her out and when the SH*T hit the fan, she apparently told him she wasn't going to pay back that loan. Apparently she felt that if the money she borrows was ill-gotten or somehow not on the up an up, then she wasn't really obligated to pay it back. I'm not sure if she ever did pay back the loan, but this type of "Ethics" really speaks volume. I mean why did she stay with UB/AP as long as she did? I think this loan had something to do with her reasoning.

Bottom line she is as scummy as her brother is. It runs in the family.

 

Originally Posted by kevmode

Are there any new updates on the FTP hearing mods?

Nothing new yet, kevmode. I e-mailed AGCC again as well. You can contact them directly at info@agcc.gg.

In case you missed Rafe Furst's response to the Ponzi scheme allegations... Remember, he's one of three people named by the DOJ:
http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...g-hide-586799/