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Originally Posted by supra1988t
lol First of all the affiliate is staking the players, not the site itself, secondly the tickets are accounted for in the prizepools. Did you have a problem when ftp was putting S Gromenkova and a million other pros in tournaments? Was that "stealing equity"?
I wish i had a 90% roi, thats only in plo8 mtts and I am NOT ok with any alleged cheating ffs.
I know I was just being retarded. According to Ktx you are okay with it. Ktx doesn't believe in hard evidence tho!! His testimony should be more than enough!! -
He has numerous suspects that he's currently investigating. As soon as he gathers all the eyewitness testimonies he'll be able to provide us with some solid evidence. He was able to clearly establish motive and that's more than enough for me
As you can see the problem has become rather.......... BIG!! My name is mud yaaaaaaaaaaaaa -
ya great read guys, im a loser in the games i grind, your absolutely right!
Edited By: ktx49 Apr 19th, 2012 at 08:17 PM

lol i suck tho right? cause ive been playing poker seriously for maybe 1 year and im beating games your still stuck grinding after all these years?? yep thats because you lost a bunch of money to sites like FTP/CEREUS, that were certainly more legitimate than merge will ever be(yes i chuckled myself), contained a decent percentage of international players, and yet they didnt hesitate one bit to screw over their entire customer base when it came down to it.
so in all the years we have had online poker, there has been ONE SITE, yes just ONE, that has shown they are capable of running an online poker site as an actual business!
the rest have all been and will continue to be, money grabs run by very shady characters who are only in the business because its no longer legitimate/legal....i continue to use the analogy of prohibition in the early part of last century and the drug trade in the latter part....
the moment the gov't made these things illegal, the criminal element rose up to fill the void in the market and that is what is happening post UIEGA with online poker in the USA.
but again, i have no clue what im talking about, im sure merge is actually run by very respectable business men/women. obviously a legitimate business would decide that the best place to begin marketing their product is in the ONE country that has made it clear its illegal to operate said businesses. but again, this is just a rigtard talking and nothing i say can have any merit....
if nobody can provide reasonable arguments for why i am so out of line with my posts in this thread and others, then atleast answer me this much:
what is Merge's long term business model?
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So you can beat micro stakes and not mid or high stakes. Thanks for providing us with information we already knew. Not sure what this proves. Nice graph though, even though you're on super tilt.
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Kavilla...stay at micros then if your so good at them and stop bitching about how everything is rigged and collusion rings.
Well for one Merge was in the US market pre BF and they were one of the only sites that decided to stay in the market and they succesfully captured pretty much the entire market where there is little to no competition. Now they are working to expand their buisness to the Euro market as we see with the LockOPS. If Merge had left the US market on BF they would not be alive as the Euro Market is so competitive.Originally Posted by ktx49
ya great read guys, im a loser in the games i grind, your absolutely right!

if nobody can provide reasonable arguments for why i am so out of line with my posts in this thread and others, then atleast answer me this much:
what is Merge's long term business model?
thats what i thought.
I think all of us are jsut tired of you bitching and making false aquisitions and crying every time you lose a hand and making merge and online US regs all look bad when in actual fact you jsut have a gambling addiction and cannot beat the game at the mid levels. That graph you posted is great but take out your filters and realize you cant beat the game and instead of crying about it maybe work on your game and stop being such a nit.
I suck at this game but work hard most days on getting better...gl hope to see you at the tables. -
come back to the micros kavilla we miss you. maybe ur not ready for the bigs yet.
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so your response is that merge is ultimately run by scammers who are eventually going to steal everyones money? quite impressive that you continue to donate when you know for an absolute fact that merge is a scam. id be interested in seeing some of your research/facts on all of your claims otherwise you should just be banned. so go ahead and make a post with actual facts instead of just rambling about how everything is a scam/rigged while you continue to play.
Edited By: sirswish6 Apr 19th, 2012 at 11:49 PM -
these accounts are littered full of MAing...as I can personally attest to.
Edited By: AMEC04 Apr 20th, 2012 at 05:16 AM -
I feel/think the whole premis for the cheating conspiracy stems from tbe fact that you can legitimately have an account on each skin, then compound the fact that operators/affiliates are actively staking and profiting, this opens the door for every conclusion. Cheating, scamming, stealing....NO!!! Does it stop me from playing no....You have to admit It sure is sketchy
Originally Posted by sirswish6
so your response is that merge is ultimately run by scammers who are eventually going to steal everyones money? quite impressive that you continue to donate when you know for an absolute fact that merge is a scam. id be interested in seeing some of your research/facts on all of your claims otherwise you should just be banned. so go ahead and make a post with actual facts instead of just rambling about how everything is a scam/rigged while you continue to play.
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Edited By: tyson219 Apr 20th, 2012 at 07:20 PMSee his original comment (fwiw, elimherr's quote reflects his original post).Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
People should stop spewing stupid remarks unless they are able to back statements up with cold hard facts.
http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/me...ml#post6842496
Not sure if he's trolling or serious. If serious, pretty significant admission. -
I agree myself as well as others have noticed some days these "ticket" accounts play different styles...
Originally Posted by tyson219
See his original comment (fwiw, elimherr's quote reflects his original post).
http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/me...ml#post6842496
Not sure if he's trolling or serious. If serious, pretty significant admission. -
These accounts are receiving tickets at an endless rate. Basically, at any given time, there are enough tickets in an account to play every 11, 33, 60, 109, and 215 MTT on the entire Merge slate for all of eternity. This is why there is so much MAing going on. Its an endless freeroll, but not a single person can play 24/7. Basically, these accounts are guarentee fillers to ensure the guarentee is met. Its a freeroll, hence the 40% of cash/no make up deal these prop players receive. Also, depending on which MTT you're talking about, these "ticketed" accounts account for up to 33% of the entire MTT field.
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So your saying 30% of the players on this site are on ticket accounts? I find this hard to believe. provide some evidence, your numbers seem off. It seems the way to tell if they are a ticket account is that they cant re-buy or addon
Originally Posted by AMEC04
These accounts are receiving tickets at an endless rate. Basically, at any given time, there are enough tickets in an account to play every 11, 33, 60, 109, and 215 MTT on the entire Merge slate for all of eternity. This is why there is so much MAing going on. Its an endless freeroll, but not a single person can play 24/7. Basically, these accounts are guarentee fillers to ensure the guarentee is met. Its a freeroll, hence the 40% of cash/no make up deal these prop players receive. Also, depending on which MTT you're talking about, these "ticketed" accounts account for up to 33% of the entire MTT field.
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No, he's saying that depending on which MTT you're talking about, these "ticketed" accounts account for up to 33% of the entire MTT field. Meaning the weekday 100c is comprised of 1/3 ticketed accounts.
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How does a fish like ZiggyMoonbeam score this kind of backing deal? Is he a friend/family member of someone at Feltstars? It doesn't make sense.
More possible ticket accounts:
TheTopPeelBack
HowIsThisLegal
Quickscope
peppermonkey
JaxGotStax
The only reason I'm listing these accounts is so people can keep an eye on them in case any MAing or obvious collusion were to take place.
I think the people whose identities we actually know -- like sirswish and Ricky -- are doing everything right. These guys have good reputations and seem to be people of integrity. However, it's not difficult to imagine some MAing or collusion going on somewhere. -
WAAAAAAAY more accounts than this... and they all know who each other are too via the friends list
Originally Posted by KingTriton
How does a fish like ZiggyMoonbeam score this kind of backing deal? Is he a friend/family member of someone at Feltstars? It doesn't make sense.
More possible ticket accounts:
TheTopPeelBack
HowIsThisLegal
Quickscope
peppermonkey
JaxGotStax
The only reason I'm listing these accounts is so people can keep an eye on them in case any MAing or obvious collusion were to take place.
I think the people whose identities we actually know -- like sirswish and Ricky -- are doing everything right. These guys have good reputations and seem to be people of integrity. However, it's not difficult to imagine some MAing or collusion going on somewhere. -
well i keep asking why anyone would go out of their way to back people in a way that would be sure to stir up controversy if discovered and all the while, actually be losing tens of thousands of dollars in the process.
Edited By: ktx49 Apr 26th, 2012 at 02:50 AM
say what you want, but there is absolutely something strange about all of this; probably unethical at best.
i keep asking why anyone like swish wouldnt use some of their own money to add on and rebuy if they are actually getting 40% or whatever he said...like tyson keeps insisting the reason they do it like this(single bullets etc) is because its somehow easier for the backer. which makes sense until you consider the fact that backing people isnt about whats easiest to do, its all about making MONEY. so why swish would cut into his own profit when he will still have to sit there and grind the same hours is just stupid, even if his backer would only provide him with tickets.
its like offering someone the choice between making a wage of $20 per hour and $10 per hour for the exact same job...and your gonna tell me all these winnings HSMTT regs are picking the $10 per hour job?
they will be doing the EXACT same work, with no differences at all, why would anyone chose to make less?
theres just so much more to this, its scary how it keeps getting swept under the rug...if you notice everytime someone makes a serious post in here, there is one of swish's buddys right behind him laughing it up making jokes to derail the thread
also, i did some looknig around on sharkscope, and its odd that only a handful of people are beating freezeouts on merge. just find that hard to believe. go ahead, look at your own results and post them here. -
all you have to do is keep track of who never rebuys or adds on. scope them and if they have a lot of volume then they are a ticketed account
for the player, it is a freeroll. there is no make up. for each tourny played, 40% of the profit for that single tourny goes to the horse. There is no make up and it is a tourny by tourny staking arrangement. these accounts have enough tickets to play every MTT on the Merge slate of an 11, 33, 60, 109, or 215 buy in. The one rule is this... never use cash to enter a tourney. Only use tickets. Well it is impossible to rebuy or add on with tickets, only possible with cash or points. And since there is enough tickets to play every tourny, a person has to sleep at some point. No one can play 24/7... so these players have their friends play for 20% (keep in mind with no makeup or risk of loss)... so the 40% is split between the player and the player's friend. And even more so, the player's friend cant play 24/7 and when the player cant play and the friend can't play, then the friend's friend will play for 10%. so every is getting a cut, but it doesnt matter bc its all profit. the player makes money without playing. the friend makes money without playing. all you have to do is cash once and you're ROI is infinite. bc the investment is zeroOriginally Posted by ktx49
well i keep asking why anyone would go out of their way to back people in a way that would be sure to stir up controversy if discovered and all the while, actually be losing tens of thousands of dollars in the process.
say what you want, but there is absolutely something strange about all of this; probably unethical at best.
i keep asking why anyone like swish wouldnt use some of their own money to add on and rebuy if they are actually getting 40% or whatever he said...like tyson keeps insisting the reason they do it like this(single bullets etc) is because its somehow easier for the backer. which makes sense until you consider the fact that backing people isnt about whats easiest to do, its all about making MONEY. so why swish would cut into his own profit when he will still have to sit there and grind the same hours is just stupid, even if his backer would only provide him with tickets.
its like offering someone the choice between making a wage of $20 per hour and $10 per hour for the exact same job...and your gonna tell me all these winnings HSMTT regs are picking the $10 per hour job?
they will be doing the EXACT same work, with no differences at all, why would anyone chose to make less?
theres just so much more to this, its scary how it keeps getting swept under the rug...if you notice everytime someone makes a serious post in here, there is one of swish's buddys right behind him laughing it up making jokes to derail the thread -
its very possible this isnt something limited to felstars and the accounts listed earlier in the thread.
in fact, if my memory serves me correctly, swish even said im stupid if i think felstars is the only skin doing it on merge, do you remember that conversation on the tables swish? your boy(who was seated at the VERY same table) was getting pissed because you kept responding to me??
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If you're really a ticket account, prove it and post screen shots. One of the unlimited tickets and another of said friends list.
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- tickets are sent weekly, dont have an unlimited supply in my acct, not even sure how that would work
- i enter tourneys that dont accept tickets with $ (44c, 22s, 82s etc)
- why would i use my own money to rebuy/addon if i still only get 40%
- my account isnt playing 24/7, play prob 10 mtts/day when i play
- ive read/heard site pros get tickets as part of their deal
ps, sick $10/$20 analogy there. it might apply if the employee had to pay some amount per hr in order to make $20/hr but thats about it. still waitin on all ur facts about cheating/colluding/etc etc etc etc etc etc -
nope Im not a ticket account, never claimed to be. However, I do know all the details and I have played on one numerous times (I'm a friend of a friend of a ticketed account). This entire ordeal is extremely shady, but honestly, I don't feel safe outing the usernames I know of (a lot of them, 5 to 10 times as many as earlier listed).
Edited By: AMEC04 Apr 26th, 2012 at 07:46 AM
I don;t know how much actual collusion is going on. Honestly I think there isn't any. All I know is that these ticketed accounts know who the other ticketed accounts are, that's all But when its all profit... with zero chance of losing a penny... why collude? Makes no sense to cheat when you are freerolling 40% every time you play.
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