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unreal thread.......................stealing equity would mean that the skin doesnt pay merge for the tickets [lol to believe that]
Edited By: double_kyan Apr 26th, 2012 at 09:08 AM
so if the tickets are paid for kevmode how do u see this as stealing equity from you.
makes zero sense to assume that skins have an endless supply of free tickets at merge's expense
merge is allowing mtt;s to be short changed by skins with free tickets...........this benefits other skins..........and they all have a false foundation of profit and merge lets it happen because they dont like money
as a matter of fact kevmode lets say the tickets are not paid for .hiw is swish stealing equity from u? i mean u still have to cash in the tourney at hand ,its not like u were forced to hand over a part of your buy in during action
not jumpn down ur throat or anything but i have to apply reason and logic to this .
as far as collusion goes idk anything about that,but i know there a lot of legit peeps on merge ,and i'm sure there colluders out there but im clueless beyond that
kavilla the biggest joke is a guy like u that cries to everyone calls them cheaters right there at the tables,fusses and moans non stop like a lil str8 out bi tch,but yet he plays on the site .....this is what i call a degenerate-hypocrite -
the dollar amount of tickets being given out is atrocious. The number is in the millions of dollars, multi millions. u think merge is paying for these? get real... they are coming from somewhere.... from thin air IMO
Edited By: AMEC04 Apr 26th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
and there is no possible way in hell any of these ticketed accounts is making a profit for the mysterious "backer" with the deal in place..... Unless they are using these ticket to fill the tournies to reach the gaurentees. that way Merge is freerollin them since they willb e paying an overlay if the gtds arent met. so since they are paying the overlay, they may as well may a prop player to fill that gaurentee and reep the 60% of each cash and at least get something for it.
most of these ticketed accounts are good to extremely good players. there are some fish, but most ticketed accounts are good players. But even with the deal at hand, no possible way every staker isn;t losing there ass, if it were real money. but with phantom tickets, its a freeroll for every one. every one wins. merge isnt stuck paying overalys and they get to advertise dexent sized gaurentees on the MTT schedule to attract more players. And reduce the loss they take caused from overlays by sticking the prop players i and getting a prtion of the overlay back. -
lmao theres 2000 red pros looking for that deal
Originally Posted by ktx49
well i keep asking why anyone would go out of their way to back people in a way that would be sure to stir up controversy if discovered and all the while, actually be losing tens of thousands of dollars in the process.
say what you want, but there is absolutely something strange about all of this; probably unethical at best.
i keep asking why anyone like swish wouldnt use some of their own money to add on and rebuy if they are actually getting 40% or whatever he said...like tyson keeps insisting the reason they do it like this(single bullets etc) is because its somehow easier for the backer. which makes sense until you consider the fact that backing people isnt about whats easiest to do, its all about making MONEY. so why swish would cut into his own profit when he will still have to sit there and grind the same hours is just stupid, even if his backer would only provide him with tickets.
its like offering someone the choice between making a wage of $20 per hour and $10 per hour for the exact same job...and your gonna tell me all these winnings HSMTT regs are picking the $10 per hour job?
they will be doing the EXACT same work, with no differences at all, why would anyone chose to make less?
theres just so much more to this, its scary how it keeps getting swept under the rug...if you notice everytime someone makes a serious post in here, there is one of swish's buddys right behind him laughing it up making jokes to derail the thread
also, i did some looknig around on sharkscope, and its odd that only a handful of people are beating freezeouts on merge. just find that hard to believe. go ahead, look at your own results and post them here. -
I should have said, if you really have access to a ticket account, provide screenshots.
Originally Posted by AMEC04
nope Im not a ticket account, never claimed to be. However, I do know all the details and I have played on one numerous times (I'm a friend of a friend of a ticketed account). This entire ordeal is extremely shady, but honestly, I don't feel safe outing the usernames I know of (a lot of them, 5 to 10 times as many as earlier listed).
I don;t know how much actual collusion is going on. Honestly I think there isn't any. All I know is that these ticketed accounts know who the other ticketed accounts are, that's all But when its all profit... with zero chance of losing a penny... why collude? Makes no sense to cheat when you are freerolling 40% every time you play.
I'm not worried so much about the financial situation. It seems odd, but I've seen multiple skin reps say the money has to enter the prizepool, so I have no reason to believe otherwise. I'm a little cautious and slightly skeptical of the entire situation, so I'm trying to manage the amount of money I keep on the site, but nothing more than that.
However, MULTIPLE PEOPLE PLAYING THE SAME ACCOUNT IS CHEATING. If this is actually happening (and you're not the first to allege it), it needs to be cracked down on. -
Is it normal not to question site/skin reps & take everything they say as a fact? Maybe in regulated markets but after FTPdoug & BovadaServiceRep & some of the shit they've said I figured it's be prudent to use ones own mind & common sense?
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Allot of people breathing real hard itt but no one with any proof of anything can someone (AMEC04) please provide some proof of all these allegations especially the multi accounting, (which I think is going on with these ticket accounts). And fwiw if they have to have these ticket accounts to keep the guarantees up im all for it, it seems like the guarantees are dropping daily.
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and AMEC please post all the accounts that u know for sure... u say 5 to 10 times as many... list them all
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Still no proof I see. Back in a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by AMEC04
the dollar amount of tickets being given out is atrocious. The number is in the[B] millions of dollars, [/B]multi millions. u think merge is paying for these? get real... they are coming from somewhere.... from thin air IMO
and there is no possible way in hell any of these ticketed accounts is making a profit for the mysterious "backer" with the deal in place..... Unless they are using these ticket to fill the tournies to reach the gaurentees. that way Merge is freerollin them since they willb e paying an overlay if the gtds arent met. so since they are paying the overlay, they may as well may a prop player to fill that gaurentee and reep the 60% of each cash and at least get something for it.
most of these ticketed accounts are good to extremely good players. there are some fish, but most ticketed accounts are good players. But even with the deal at hand, no possible way every staker isn;t losing there ass, if it were real money. but with phantom tickets, its a freeroll for every one. every one wins. merge isnt stuck paying overalys and they get to advertise dexent sized gaurentees on the MTT schedule to attract more players. And reduce the loss they take caused from overlays by sticking the prop players i and getting a prtion of the overlay back.
it seems like ur throwing a number out there,millions than multi millions is huge difference,let alone the fact thats a lot of money
ok so if the skins arent paying for the tickets ur saqyn tht merge gets a piece of this action with the skins that are doing this idk it seems crazy to me
one thing that is interesting ,is the max cashouts ,and if that is being done to keep the false money under control than yah i would say wow,
i havnt read all these pages but i will ask,how many skins are doing this ticket thing? any1 know
ma'ing def needs to be addressed by merge if this is true
Originally Posted by ktx49
lols
apparently you're not allowed to raise questions about the integrity and security of an online poker site unless you can provide 100% concrete proof of whatever issue you may have. what a fkn joke tyson, i'm a grinder and if i see something going on at the tables I will never fkn think twice or hesitate about raising the questions that need to be asked on the forums or elsewhere.
its been exactly a year since Black Friday, and apparently people like Tyson have already forgot what happened....what a fkn shame. i guess you dont care as long as you have somewhere to grind while you live in the US??
do u remember the CEREUS fiasco?? do you remember 1 year ago, something we call Black Friday?? these sites are not exactly reputable! grrr wtf is wrong with some of you.
hell all you need to ask yourself is what kind of long term business strategy a site like Merge could have?
considering the current situation online poker faces inside the USA, you can safely say that Merge is run by undesirables at the very least.
i just dont get it. somehow I'M the bad guy here? rofls
you're just one idiot left thinking individual...........of course you're the bad guy u act so dumb at the tables that u claim u see cheating all the time,dude u just suck thats all,constantly saying things are impossible ,just fuckn hilarious ,variance is a bitch and u continue to play there with accusations tht every1 is a cheater,go play live cards for awhile that way u can yell to the dealer its rigged,because we all know u will assume its impossible for the cards to play out that way -
can u link me? i didnt read wohle thread
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NODOJINMEXICO
Edited By: KingTriton Apr 26th, 2012 at 07:26 PM
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LorraineYidetteMoss
AquaFineVudka
JohnnyLongballs
DaRickishaw
lengthylenny
420fourtwenty420
SamBarn63
SwagConsultant
Fatchalovs
ZiggyMoonbeam
ErrorErrrooorrr
sandpits
greerzy2
TokenBlackGuy
ReturnOfTheMac
TheTopPeelBack
HowIsThisLegal
Quickscope
peppermonkey
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that's more then i knew about^^^^; I heard there was around 20 accounts when I made the original thread on 2p2 although I only knew several usernames.
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yeah that list is accurate... although more of these accounts are being made
"HowIsThisLegal" - tells you something about what this guy was thinking when he set up his account -
I've read all pages on this site and 2+2, and JUST LOL at anyone siding with these MA'ING, freerolling, sketch, cheating accounts such as SIRWISH's. More will come out of all this. Its CLEARLY WRONG. All sirwish's butt buddies defending his unethical practices on both sites is just LOLOLOL!!!.... If you truely believe nothing is wrong in this entire situation you are clearly naive.
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just found out the acct I playh on occassionally has a stable a "friends" that play on the same account. Some have even kno0wn to switch players in the middle of tounries and at FT's etc.
Edited By: AMEC04 Apr 26th, 2012 at 09:40 PM -
Name the account u play on occasionally ..............
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Edited By: icufish Apr 26th, 2012 at 09:48 PMproof dog, plz!Originally Posted by kurbside
I've read all pages on this site and 2+2, and JUST LOL at anyone siding with these MA'ING, freerolling, sketch, cheating accounts such as SIRWISH's. More will come out of all this. Its CLEARLY WRONG. All sirwish's butt buddies defending his unethical practices on both sites is just LOLOLOL!!!.... If you truely believe nothing is wrong in this entire situation you are clearly naive.
I am not saying you are right or wrong. I am just saying people keep pounding their fists screaming CHEAT. But nobody can provide any real evidence.
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Please take it the next step and provide the name of the account. If there is going to be a scandal about this, do it right and start providing some real information. TY
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what kind of proof are you talking about?
Originally Posted by wackyJaxon
Please take it the next step and provide the name of the account. If there is going to be a scandal about this, do it right and start providing some real information. TY
LorainneYidetteMoss is sharing his account as I have said from the beginning; so is llllllllllllllllllll. I showed you AIM logs, but nooooo that could be made up...the proof is there its just a matter of what to do now. -
I must have missed the post where anyone was outed for multi-accounting. Please quote where you said this and an AIM log is better than no AIM log. Maybe I'm wrong, but pretty sure this is the first time an account name is being mentioned in this thread, so hopefully we are getting somewhere after you quote or produce these AIM logs with USER names involved.
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they are in the 2p2 thread which is down as of now...
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Aim logs were posted long ago LOL, but who would trust chad right? Hes just a respected member of this forumn with millions of dollars in cashes and would totally make everything up right? LOL..
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They weren't posted in this thread though. AFAIK no names were brought up in the 14 pages that exist in this thread. Would like to see them here where possible since many people haven't read the long thread on 2+2.
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pretty sure the 2p2 post pasted 4 lines from an aim convo with the names redacted. doesn't really count.
FWIW, I am pretty certain they MA. But we need proof and a full aim log/screenshots, no an edited excerpt. -
I have the password for the account, and it is on the list mentioned. I know numerous people play on it (railed them plenty of times). Basically, the owner of the account wants someone playing on it at all times, he doesnt care who. Its all free money why would he care. no one plays = no money. a fish plays - all he has to do is cash once and its profit.
Ill say it again that I dont feel safe outing said accounts. I don't exactly what kind of people Im dealing with but I don't wanna take the chance. I do know all the facts, and am trying to shed light on the shadyiness on the situation. Apparently, some of these friends and friends of friends are getting anxious for their cut so I assume more and more people will find there way here in the near future.
I dont think EVERY account is MAing. But I know A LOT of them are. multiple users on a daily basis and even people taking over for people late in MTTs. its sick
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