Who ever said he was one?

 

Originally Posted by razorpoker2002

well maybe he isnt but his name was mentioned in one of the posts on here.

So you see "half the names on the list" playing in the satties, and yet the one guy you decide to name wasn't on the lists?

That makes sense.

 

Originally Posted by razorpoker2002

yea well Im not playing the tourney right now and thats the only name that came to mind. Excuse the f outta me

That's the whole problem with this thread, there are 30 names mentioned with no proof. Some at some point in life the name on the list never did a rebuy or add on.. who cares.We all said its -ev for them to single shell it, so let them single shell it. Maybe they won a satty ticket in the 150 seats to 150k or another Sattalite to a 109 and don't want to play a full Sunday grind, so they jump in a 109r and take a shot. Maybe since the payout scale sucks balls, they don't want to drop 309 into an MTT that barely at times pays two tables and min cash is 334. But to just throw out names because they didn't re buy and you can only tell if you sit there and watch every freaking table because Sharkscope does an 'average' and you can't tell who did or did not rebuy on sharkscope from what i know. I could be wrong but when i play a 5r, it always has me different then what i did or any other rebuy for that point. maybe they are freerolling and dumping, who knows, but all i know is i am tired of ppl throwing names out there with no proof other then well i thought.. i have a full list of thoughts, that i dont express. We might as well start throwing the whole forums name on these list. We'll all be guilty by association, because one time at band camp.. i didnt do the max rebuy or bought in late and just did the buyin and addon;

 

Originally Posted by ty71087

I single bought the 109 cubed once. True story. THere is no reason for them to play sats DUCY?

lol 1st time i played 109 c, i won it on a single shot

btw this thread is dead, its going nowhere,at this point its possible the acct holders are going to back off of any of the suspicion of having 5million gangsters take turns or whatever the hell is going on

since when does multi-accounting = coupons?

sandpits on the list u little fcn clowns, i rebuy and addon up a storm, fc all yall , little gang up fcn idiots as if anyone would not take same deal, wanna fc with someones deal and think u can sit there and get away with it, everyone knows where we all are, keep it up big shots = see youz about

ps. fcr see u in a bit, colluding scum

makes me sic the way these fcs get away with just jammin names up sayin sht about everyone trying to fc everyone , i tell u right now not everyone is a fcn sharin acc cock sucker, so fc all yall, I am soory got a stake, but i would appreciate you little basement dwellers to stop puttin my name up in your little gangbang not wannna say whos acc u bin playin on, we fcn know where u are idiots = DONT PUT MY NAME WITH THESE FCS

KingTriton u sure u wanna get in here and try to fc people when sht loads of $$$ on the line, guess what just because u in a basement dont mean we dont know your little pm

sic off u fcs tryin to fc my deal, I did and do fc all wrong, fcn with the wrong clowns

AMEC04 u little puke u addmit to using accs not your but not say the names fc u,

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

If you have nothing to hide, then it shouldnt matter that you are listed as a ticket account, although I do understand why you wouldn't want to be grouped in with the other accounts since there are definitely some that are account sharing. It is pathetic that Merge doesn't care about this issue. Shame on Merge, FeltStars, RPM, Lock, Hero, Carbon, and all the other skins for not caring about security issues. Most people aren't blaming the people for being staked even though the affiliates seem to also break the TOS by doing so, but the players that aren't sharing accounts are not the problem. Its Merge and the skins themselves for doing nothing about both the account sharing and maybe changing the TOS, and the affiliate for violating the TOS.

how can I stop these clowns from wackin each other while playin, if u think it only happens when a but hurt guy gets cut from the loop and cries wolf then big misstake, usa fcs have been known to steal and cheat all they can, tell me what the biggest thiefs are in the world

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

If you have nothing to hide, then it shouldnt matter that you are listed as a ticket account, although I do understand why you wouldn't want to be grouped in with the other accounts since there are definitely some that are account sharing. It is pathetic that Merge doesn't care about this issue. Shame on Merge, FeltStars, RPM, Lock, Hero, Carbon, and all the other skins for not caring about security issues. Most people aren't blaming the people for being staked even though the affiliates seem to also break the TOS by doing so, but the players that aren't sharing accounts are not the problem. Its Merge and the skins themselves for doing nothing about both the account sharing and maybe changing the TOS, and the affiliate for violating the TOS.

best post itt

It is obvious something strange is going on. There is an extremely low chance a backer is paying for these tickets out of his own pocket under this deal. Not only is it a bad deal for the backer he is putting his horses at a disadvantage without rebuys. Also if you look at a satellite being played for the Sun 530 usually at least half the players are the "supposed" ticket players. What kind of backer would allow this if he had to pay for it? I'm not at all saying someone isn't paying for the tickets but I'd bet a lot of money it wasn't the backer.

With that being said I can't say I blame the players at all for taking this deal. I mean honestly if someone were to offer me this deal I'd be a fool not accept. I don't condone account sharing one bit but as far as using the tickets I don't care if these guys use them as long as the prize pool is right. Like it was said before if you have a problem with this the best thing you can do is email your skin and let them know what's going on and why you want it changed.

^^^ who are these people in this chat transcript

i want to know if this is 4 accts at the same time????????can we have this answer,or is this re entering each time he is ko'd

i mean wtf is it possible to log to each skin same time same acct.name..............say maybe using diff ip address

 

Originally Posted by double_kyan

i want to know if this is 4 accts at the same time????????can we have this answer,or is this re entering each time he is ko'd

i mean wtf is it possible to log to each skin same time same acct.name..............say maybe using diff ip address

as far as the prize pool goes its obv that if the tickets are airballz and with lock possibly bailing,things will collapse

they say the money is there ,unless feltstars and merge are in cahoots , what can u do kavilla, they say the money is in the pool




the moshman rep[allegedly] did say he seen dude in same mtt at same time..................if it can be done at ip address id like to know ,so if any1 has 2 diff accts with merge do u know if its possible,im pretty sure when i was choosing a skin i forgot to log out of hero and carbon denied me on till i logged off of hero

so if its a security flaw that allows multiple entries from different ip addresses this is bullshit that they have a system that allows same name to be on from different locations

this is why the city and date the acct was started when scrolling over a persons name is somewhat beneficial .

merge is so incognito ,i scroll the name and it says united states [its 1 big fqn country i know that much]

 

Originally Posted by pits

sandpits on the list u little fcn clowns, i rebuy and addon up a storm, fc all yall , little gang up fcn idiots as if anyone would not take same deal, wanna fc with someones deal and think u can sit there and get away with it, everyone knows where we all are, keep it up big shots = see youz about

ps. fcr see u in a bit, colluding scum

makes me sic the way these fcs get away with just jammin names up sayin sht about everyone trying to fc everyone , i tell u right now not everyone is a fcn sharin acc cock sucker, so fc all yall, I am soory got a stake, but i would appreciate you little basement dwellers to stop puttin my name up in your little gangbang not wannna say whos acc u bin playin on, we fcn know where u are idiots = DONT PUT MY NAME WITH THESE FCS

KingTriton u sure u wanna get in here and try to fc people when sht loads of $$$ on the line, guess what just because u in a basement dont mean we dont know your little pm

sic off u fcs tryin to fc my deal, I did and do fc all wrong, fcn with the wrong clowns

AMEC04 u little puke u addmit to using accs not your but not say the names fc u,

whats up with the we thing here, post could be a level as well ,but this slippage of the tongue makes believe its real post,he defends himself sayn that he doesnt like being accused and that not every1 is acct. sharing,very defensive of himself as if he is his own solo entity ,but doesnt realize he started off with the "everyone knows where we all are"

this has me pissd offf because if i had the patience id go back in my hand history

i recall some very suspicious action against me using 3 and 4 bets with odd situations that made me get off the hand than strange action after im out ,ive got like 3 x i can recall this within the last couple weeks, i got 1 in particular that really did seem like a dump

merge having weak security like this will not sit well if its the same name entering, a security feature should be implemented to dis -allow this from happening anywhere ,either security needs to put down the hammer or 2 things will happen other will follow and do the same and others will stop playing.network full of guys with 4 names at same time playn team poker

yes obviously it was 2 accounts at the same time. i *believe* merge, like UB/AP, does allow for someone to re-enter into a tournament after they've busted from another account.

and if people werent so busy trying to make me look bad and call me a rigtard maybe you would have seen all of my earlier posts about being able to play on multiple skins/accounts, from the same IP, in the same tourneys, at the same time; even using the same personal information on each account....
there is NOTHING in place to stop this. its really sad, tyson claimed this is allowed because of the number of people playing from so called "poker houses" which to me is just ridiculous....if stars didnt allow this why would a much smaller site allow it when many of the MTT fields are well below 200 entrants...

i first became aware of this massive hole in their "security" when two P5ers, HollisterB22 and his GF, were playing in $109 ticket sattys that often had less than 18 entrants...sometimes less than 9 entrants. i had chatted with them a bunch and knew their relationship etc, so I was pretty suprised when I saw them playing at the same tables....when i questioned them about it, they were honest and up front and I do not believe they were using it to gain an edge; however they let me know that merge had not even flagged them or questioned them or asked them to further verify the details of the account(s) etc!!! i could not believe it...and it doesnt take a rigtard or a rocket scientist to realize other, less scrupulous players would discover this flaw and exploit it to gain an edge.

its sad, tbh, because this is such low level basic security flaw that majority of people dont even believe me when i tell them its possible. its whatever, but let me say this much... we are just looking at the tip of the iceberg on merge.

You CAN bust out and re enter on another skin! I have no idea if TOS covers this, but they do allow it, that I know. I've done it. And you CAN NOT open a second skin on the same IP/computer, I've tried it. BUT I have been able to open another skin on another computer, using the same connection with out a problem. Last week while playing Hero, I wanted to check my balences at 4 other skins, had no problem using another computer to do this. I have also done this other times in the past by accident, just forgot what I had open. All the info on my merge skins is exactly the same except for passwords. Maybe they just trust me, but I have never heard a word from them on this. And it could also be that they know I've never tried to enter tourneys with more than one user. But it is a hole in security, it's been like that for a long time.

And BTW, why go to all the trouble of risking your roll by trying to get around security when all you really have to do is Skype your team! When I first learned what Skype was, I knew on line poker would never be the same. And please, I know many of you Skype for training and other above board persuits, but let's not be nieve here, ppl, pros have been caught.

I know 100% Kteller has felt stars deal....................boom i said it, and hes neg 12k or so so who cares

And i also could name around 10 others that are on it and down 10k a pop each lol BOSS BALLERS and a couple down 30k lolz

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

lol where did i "indicate" you want to allow cheating? once again, your first comment is focused on me instead of the ISSUE. i never misrepresented anything you said....in another thread iirc, you talked about the large number of poker houses who complained etc...which admittedly I just laughed at, sorry.

and you are wrong, stars does not allow this to happen on their site....
you and i both know that the difference between Stars and Merge on these issues, is like night and day.
so how about we stop trying so hard to diminish everything ive posted and instead focus on getting to the bottom of this crap.

on stars if you attempt to log into two accounts from the same IP you will likely have your accounts suspended immediately until they investigate your relationship and account details/personal information. and afterwards, they still wont allow you to enter into the same SNGs and cash tables etc

on merge, you can definitely enter into the same games etc...and once you consider how small some of these fields are, especially at the higher buy ins, it makes you wonder how often this is occurring and actually having an impact on the outcome of the games. this guy was CAUGHT DOING IT and claims to know of many more people doing exactly the same thing; implying its common place and even claiming someone was using 4 accounts in a single tournament.
as the moshman guy said himself, in these extremely small fields this could be devastating.

ive been fascinated for a long time by the extreme lack of long-term winners in Freezeout tourneys on merge and maybe this kind of thing can offer an explanation.

and to your last point, i agree completely...the smart(and most successful) cheaters are probably not going to be so dumb as to use their same personal information or use the same IP......but merge cannot continue to ignore these security problems just because its happening on Stars or because its simply too difficult to properly police their games.

simply not true.

although its true about cash games and some sngs