Its not going to happen because the charges filed against pokerstars are the equivelant of organized crime/mafia type charges. And the DOJ took a long time building their case and gathering evidence, no way will they ever operate in the US. It would be the equivelant of giving Al Capone a liquor license after he got out of jail for running liquor, it would never happen, and the US dont need pokerstars, a new American equivalent will be made with the old players and new generation of players not to mention the existing brick and mortar players that we all know that never trusted online poker before regulations

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

Ivey is boycotting the WSOP and suing FTP which is most likely going to further slow down US payments. Lederer I believe is hiding in Ireland, but his wife held some jewelry charity auction at the Golden Nugget last week. Matusow, is playing, but not doing great. I saw a picture of him in the $10K Horse which he is still alive in, and is sporting a deepstack U patch and no FTP logo. I continue to send FTP money via Rake, just at a slower rate than I used to. If it gets locked up, I am not blaming any red pro for it.

Thats easy for you to say, seeing you already stated you have removed the majority of your roll to other sites and have prepared to minimize your losses

Just hope the future of USA poker doesn't turn into national only sites like Pokertstars.us. I miss playing against americans.

Lots of ifs BUT if FTP paid their US players in full, if FTP were allowed to come back, if FTP offered something of greater EV to me that other regulated sites did not then yes I would give FTP another shot.

Having said that I fully expect never to play on FTP again because all those ifs will never happen imo.

Anyone who goes back is an idiot. Full tilt should be called Full Shit Poker!

 

Originally Posted by Boofer

I really enjoyed wearing a tux and playing against turtles and lizards. That was fun....

I do miss my penguin avatar :(

I'll probably go back. I'll definitely go back to stars. FTP I'd be more cautious and not keep much of a bankroll on there for awhile though.

Something I thought about though is say online poker comes back and US players are only allowed to play against other US players, how will that effect the evolution of the game strategies?

 

Originally Posted by Heehaw16

Anyone who goes back is an idiot. Full tilt should be called Full Shit Poker!

A lot of people played on UB even tho they stole millions from their customers. So I imagine most people will go back to FTP if they get the chance. I dont think US players will ever get to play on stars/ftp ever again tho...

When? You mean IF. The answer is never.
You live in a country where the main function of the government is to steal money from the poor and give it to the rich.
The U.S. Government doesn't want money sent overseas that they plan to steal from you.
Unless your in the top 1%. Then you can send jobs overseas and have your cheaply made goods shipped back tariff free to be sold at Walmart... SUCKERS.

Try moving to a free country, such as Russia, Bulgaria, Ukraine et al.
GOD BLESS AMERICA. LAND FOR THE RICH AND THE HOME OF THE SHEEP.

 

Originally Posted by MnMatusow

When? You mean IF. The answer is never.
You live in a country where the main function of the government is to steal money from the poor and give it to the rich.
The U.S. Government doesn't want money sent overseas that they plan to steal from you.
Unless your in the top 1%. Then you can send jobs overseas and have your cheaply made goods shipped back tariff free to be sold at Walmart... SUCKERS.

Try moving to a free country, such as Russia, Bulgaria, Ukraine et al.
GOD BLESS AMERICA. LAND FOR THE RICH AND THE HOME OF THE SHEEP.

First off, calm down. Second of all, you really seem to have absolutely no idea how the American government works or any concept of distribution of wealth. Third of all, of all the possible countries you could pick to use as an example of "free" you went with Russia, Bulgaria, and Ukraine? Wtf...

Meh.. Everyone is pissed so they say they won't back. Most will though.

well the bill thats out there now for US legislation is not going to go through. the AGA who donates money to the PPA has already said they will not support this new bill, eventhough it was written in part by the PPA. Theres some other bill thats being written up thats supposed to be introduced in the Fall of this year that the AGA is supporting and in it, it clearly states theres simply a 2 yr ban for sites that operated post uiega, so stars and ftp will have an opportunity at some point to come back if they survive long enough.

Here is the link: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/1677...n-autumn.thtml from July 6

Its a question of 'when' now for US poker, and I personally believe its going to still be at least a year away. Govt stuff moves very slowly and i think theres going to be alot of debate about taxes, jurisdiction, whos in whos out, and how its going to be regulated that is going to take time to be settled. I obv hope it comes back sooner, but just dont see it happening.

edit: as far as going back, if they pay me what im owed, i would go back.

 

Originally Posted by s1nnr

will i play on ftp if they come back to US? Absolutely yes... Its not about hurt feelings, its about the value of the tournaments they offer....

yep. as long as i get my $$ back first.

Thanks Mark, This is Good news to me, & even if they keep half my ft BR, its alright. I can just make more :P my Fav Poker site is FT,