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  1. alenb10 alenb10 is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:30pm) in reply to E Dar

    If I'm banned from pokerstars but not from Full Tilt, will I still be able to play on FT?

    Same goes the other as well for those who were banned from FT but no Stars?
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:32pm) in reply to Hughes4

     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    Wouldnt you just repay your stakers less taxes

    To put it simply, no.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:39pm) in reply to boneralert

     
    Originally Posted by boneralert View Post

    Definitely agree. But I don't think this deal was premised on pokerstars having any inside information on when or whether poker will be legalized because obviously such inside information does not exist.

    You obviously don't know how government works. PokerStars obviously only makes this deal because they know regulated online poker is coming to the US.

    Government at every level is run by inside information and deals. That includes laws, wars, mergers, regulatory frameworks, etc..etc.. The fact that you aren't aware of that either makes you very naive or very innocent. Judging by your post history, I'm betting on the former.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:44pm) in reply to shakhtar

    if youre an american who goes to canada to play on stars frequently who do you collect from? stars or doj? is it your choice?
    Edited By: SyphonSoul Jul 31st, 2012 at 07:46 PM
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:50pm) in reply to SyphonSoul

     
    Originally Posted by SyphonSoul View Post

    if youre an american who goes to canada to play on stars frequently who do you collect from? stars or doj? is it your choice?

    wherever ur residence was listed on full tilt on april 14th 2011
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:53pm) in reply to mattdb9er

    FAQ for Full Tilt players

    FAQ for PokerStars players
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:54pm) in reply to Dan

    Hughes4 yes you're wrong about the PPA. You're fooling yourself if you don't think the pressure the PPA and it's members put on lawmakers aided in today's decision.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 7:55pm) in reply to mapunk

     
    Originally Posted by mapunk View Post

    I'm in the same exact boat...Just gotta play the waiting game I guess.

    ^^^Samesies^^^ ....Seems like they're not going to make it easy. PPA could be a great help with this.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:08pm) in reply to StayCalm

     
    Originally Posted by StayCalm View Post

    Q: Can I transfer my FTP funds to an account on pokerstars?
    A:     We hope to have the functionality in place to allow inter-site transfers between Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars, so that you can enjoy playing again on either platform of your choosing. We will provide additional guidance on this in the coming weeks.

    Got this from the 2+2 thread. Seems like a really cool idea. Would basically ruin any chances scammers have when swapping money. God I miss Pokerstars.....

    you're likely not going to need to play on both sites if/when they become available. I assume since it is the same company they will offer the same tournament schedule. instead of a 1.5 mil on stars and a 750k on ftp on sundays, these tournaments will likely be combined into one and offered on both sites.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:08pm) in reply to qjuice14

    Serious question, If I'm self banned for life from pokerstars but not from Full Tilt, will I still be able to play on FT as I have a balance and account there? Will they likely be cross referencing each player in their database?
    Edited By: joeschmo Jul 31st, 2012 at 08:09 PM
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:09pm) in reply to qjuice14

     
    Originally Posted by qjuice14 View Post

    you're likely not going to need to play on both sites if/when they become available. I assume since it is the same company they will offer the same tournament schedule. instead of a 1.5 mil on stars and a 750k on ftp on sundays, these tournaments will likely be combined into one and offered on both sites.


    i dont expect this to be the case....
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:13pm) in reply to joeschmo

     
    Originally Posted by joeschmo View Post

    Serious question, If I'm self banned for life from pokerstars but not from Full Tilt, will I still be able to play on FT as I have a balance and account there? Will they likely be cross referencing each player in their database?

    I also want to know this. Same situation.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:14pm) in reply to alenb10

    Statement from Full Tilt: "Full Tilt Poker apologizes to all of its customers who endured a long and difficult period wondering whether this day would ever come." Read the full statement here:

    http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...period-587634/
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:17pm) in reply to shakhtar

     
    Originally Posted by shakhtar View Post

    You obviously don't know how government works. pokerstars obviously only makes this deal because they know regulated online poker is coming to the US.

    Government at every level is run by inside information and deals. That includes laws, wars, mergers, regulatory frameworks, etc..etc.. The fact that you aren't aware of that either makes you very naive or very innocent. Judging by your post history, I'm betting on the former.

    I find it ironic that you'd admonish me for not understanding how government works then proceed to deliver a spiel that would be more at home on an infowars.com message board than P5s.

    I find it perfectly reasonable to think that pokerstars is sanguine about the possibility of legalization. But it's just ridiculous to say they have specific inside information that says it's going to happen. That's just not how law-making works.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:20pm) in reply to SyphonSoul

     
    Originally Posted by SyphonSoul View Post

    if youre an american who goes to canada to play on stars frequently who do you collect from? stars or doj? is it your choice?

    Yeah, it's whatever your listed residence was as of 4/14/11, the day before Black Friday.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:24pm) in reply to qjuice14

     
    Originally Posted by qjuice14 View Post

    you're likely not going to need to play on both sites if/when they become available. I assume since it is the same company they will offer the same tournament schedule. instead of a 1.5 mil on stars and a 750k on ftp on sundays, these tournaments will likely be combined into one and offered on both sites.

    I thought they were going to operate fulltilt at a completely separate entity? Maybe I'm reading it wrong though.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:26pm) in reply to StayCalm

    I LOL'd - I'll LOL harder when I get a check though
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:27pm) in reply to StayCalm

     
    Originally Posted by StayCalm View Post

    I thought they were going to operate fulltilt at a completely separate entity? Maybe I'm reading it wrong though.


    It is going to be separate. It's branding. You capture a larger market with 2 separate companies than 1 large one.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:32pm) in reply to P0KERDUUDE

    I don't know about you guys, but based on the information available, I am not waiting for further instructions before I begin the process of requesting my money from the DoJ.

    There is plenty of information/instructions available here: http://www.justice.gov/criminal/afmls/victims/

    I haven't had a chance to read all of the documents yet, but you can bet I will shortly. I have also sent an email to Full Tilt Support (now run by pokerstars of course) requesting any applicable information that they have that will support and expedite my claim with the DoJ.

    If it turns out I end up having to wait anyway, so be it. But might as well get the ball rolling now.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:37pm) in reply to wes_mc

    I wonder if FTPDoug will be back...wonder whatever happened to that guy....
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:38pm) in reply to scottypimpin1

    If you thought dealing with FT customer service was a nightmare, I bet ya'll can't wait to deal with the DOJ. Congrats on getting your money back. Good luck with seeing it by Xmas.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:41pm) in reply to runninbad

     
    Originally Posted by runninbad View Post

    If you thought dealing with FT customer service was a nightmare, I bet ya'll can't wait to deal with the DOJ. Congrats on getting your money back. Good luck with seeing it by Xmas.

    Sooner is obviously better than later, but if it takes another year I'll still be happy to have the money back.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:41pm) in reply to wes_mc

    Excerpt from a statement from Full Tilt Poker's legal team:

    “We have worked incredibly hard over the past 15 months to reach an agreement that would achieve Full Tilt Poker’s primary objective: enabling all of its customers to be compensated,” said Barry Boss, managing partner of Cozen O’Connor’s Washington, D.C. office, who focuses on complex criminal matters, particularly those involving allegations of white-collar crime. “I am gratified that we were finally able to achieve this objective.”
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:50pm) in reply to Dan

    We've had a few people ask how today's purchase of Tilt by stars will impact the ongoing litigation against Howard Lederer, Chris Ferguson, and Rafe Furst of Full Tilt. In an interview with PokerNews published today, Full Tilt legal counsel Jeff Ifrah explained:

    "On the civil side, this deal doesn’t affect the individual defendants obviously, but in terms of what impact it will have, from a technical legal standpoint it really shouldn’t have any impact. The charges against the individuals on the civil case are different than what was just resolved today. What was resolved today was the civil forfeiture charges against the corporate defendants, and what remains open are fraud charges against individuals. So there really are different charges."
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:52pm) in reply to Dan

    Hi folks -
    A lot of people are asking about the date which is used to establish whether you're a "U.S." or "Rest of World" player, for the purposes of from whom you get your money.

    We have officially confirmed that that date is June 29th, 2011. Reports that the date is April 14th, 2011 are incorrect. If your Full Tilt account had an address in the U.S. or U.S. Territories as of June 29th, you are considered to be a U.S. player.

    Best regards,
    Lee Jones

    From 2+2
     
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:54pm) in reply to alenb10

     
    Originally Posted by joeschmo View Post

    Serious question, If I'm self banned for life from pokerstars but not from Full Tilt, will I still be able to play on FT as I have a balance and account there? Will they likely be cross referencing each player in their database?


     
    Originally Posted by alenb10 View Post

    I also want to know this. Same situation.

    some serious degens itt.

    how does one get banned for life on these sites?

    I mean cheating is the obvious answer...but if you did not cheat than you must have multiple warning for intolerable threats to others playing.

    just curious..but for another thread i guess.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:56pm) in reply to Prestonluv

    what about cashouts that nvr showed up & 1's that were pending...
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:58pm) in reply to Dan

    WHAT EVER YOU DO MAKE SURE YOU PLAY DUMB. THERE GOING TO MAKE A TON OF MONEY OFF THE PEOPLE THAT ADMIT THEY NEW IT WAS WRONG, OR EVEN HEARD IT WAS WRONG. YOU CANNOT BE COMPENSATED AS A VICTIM IF YOU WILLINGLY TOOK PART IN ANY WRONGDOING.
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 8:58pm) in reply to P33J

    Also :-)
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    Jul 31st, 2012 (7/31/2012 9:09pm) in reply to JohnnyGstaks

     
    Originally Posted by JohnnyGstaks View Post

    what about cashouts that nvr showed up & 1's that were pending...

    If I am remembering correctly these were already supposed to be placed back into your account balance awhile ago. Maybe this never happened but I assume you will be compensated for for these cashouts.
     
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