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Well both I mean clearly the majority of their funds are tied up in the seized accounts and now they have to wait until they bring in more rake to get back to a point where they can make normal payouts.
Originally Posted by pokerscrub1
Do you think this is a sign of liquidity issues or just the fact that a lot of the funds are still frozen?
I never had any cashout issues w UB. I suppose if the DoJ would "unsieze" some of the funds they could make proper payouts. If that doesn't happen it could take a long time for UB to get their financial house back in order. I heard they lost 60 to 70% of their volume after April 15th. Catching up could take a while. -
Can either/both of you please provide a link/support to these assertions? I'm concerned about my AP/UB funds too, but you're stating the above is if they are facts and not speculation. If they are indeed facts, I'd like to read them in context.
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Only speculation but you have to read into it what you will. I wrote on another thread....
But with this $250 restriction I find disturbing to say the least. The very fact that they have introduced this tells me that they never had client funds separated from other company assets and liabilities. It just screams liquidity problems. Strictly speaking this company should be able to cashout everyone (non U.S.players) if required at any given time. They cant. So that makes them completely useless at what should be easy to do. Management must have realised the implications of putting this ($250) restriction in place and the consequences of their actions. I see it as a last ditch effort to keep the company afloat because they simply would not of done it otherwise. Why do something so radical if its not needed? They are 'telegraphing' to the world that they do not have liquid funds.
As it stands-the DoJ have frozen most of their/our money by the looks of things. The sooner they talk to the DoJ then their/our funds will be released and cashouts can proceed as normal. -
Sorry brah no links just common sense.
Originally Posted by tyson219
Can either/both of you please provide a link/support to these assertions? I'm concerned about my AP/UB funds too, but you're stating the above is if they are facts and not speculation. If they are indeed facts, I'd like to read them in context.
Think about it, after the arrests and seizures of accounts on the 15th UB was allowing US players to continue playing for real money but not to cashout. There is only one reason why they would do this: they needed the rake that would be generated by the continuing of play. Further proof of this exists in the fact they are limiting non-US withdrawals to $250.00 per week.
They clearly have most of their funds locked up in the seized accounts and are scrambling to bring in new rake to make ends meet (which will be tough considering they lost a major chunk of their action). Common sense states it will prbly take them a while to catch up. It reminds me of a ponzi scheme in fact ha. If the DoJ would unfreeze some of the funds they'd likely be in better shape.
Obv I could be wrong but this is how it adds up to me based on the events that have unfolded since April 15th.










