I will apologise for this not being as accurate as some may like and I also have no hand history etc to put in as I dont use a HUD or tracking software.

Here goes- We're just after 4 hrs in and I've been on the table for 1hr+ playing tight and not having any hand showed down where I went for the pot.

Person I go up against is UTG or 1 away from, and I am near enough the CO (again sorry I meant to jot this all down after the hand finished).

There are a couple of decent stacks on the table 20x the cost of a round, myself, villian and 1 other are holding around 10x the cost of a round and the rest are getting to the point of having to make a play. I normally like this as it allows for room to start mopping up the small stacks on your premium hands if they make a play for the pot.

I should have established a tight image since joining this table and have not shoved at all during the tournament I have also shown that I will attack a pot I've entered. My flops seen for the tourney is around 10%. Villian is at around 10,500 and raises to around 1500 (this is a little sketchy and I am kicking myself for not writing it down, cant find the blind structure online in work a minute either to work out the pot). Folds round to me looking down on AQos, I tank a little over it and decide to isolate as there are two larger stacks to my left and I think villian is betting light.

I shove my 13,500, folds round to villian who burns off some time before calling for his tourney life with AJ clubs, flop comes x-K-Q, turn x and river 10 giving villian the straight and crippling me.

I know I should of recorded this info a bit better but what I'm looking for is opinion on my line, was this a good spot to attempt a double up? Should I have flatted hoping no one else enters pot and tried to take it away on the flop when I hit second pair top kicker? Or is it simply a case of " I got it in pretty good, got drawn out on-move on GG"

Cheers,

Dan.

 

Originally Posted by PeaceGotAces

are the blinds 300/600 or 250/500..either way i'd probably fold knowing he can't call with worse, even though he did. If you know he's spewy go for it..but most people are probably calling you like 99+ AQs+

Thats what I'm kicking myself for, I know it helps to be as accurate as possible sorry mate.

Yes, after reflecting quite a bit I'm not liking my shove there. I was focusing more on taking the larger stacks to my left out of the hand and isolating than on whether he was gonna make a stand or not.

I was hoping that my image was gonna have him folding everthing but JJ+ (poss 1010+) AQs+ from the bet I had him speculating with suited broadway or low-99 pairs. The table was very first one to raise-everyone folds for the last 10-15mins so didnt figure him for standard strength from EP.

Cheers Peace.

 

Originally Posted by alun

You dont need a hud or tracking software to paste and copy hand history just go too requests on pokerstars and email your hand history to your email account then paste and copy from there to here.

Cheers Alun, I will take a look at doing that when I get home.

Dan.

Right here is the hand-

pokerstars Hand #80867547829: Tournament #574010001, $1000+$50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2012/05/22 20:52:48 ET
Table '574010001 24' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pokerok18 (13863 in chips)
Seat 2: Olga03061969 (10017 in chips)
Seat 3: cily200 (4957 in chips)
Seat 4: Superfizzy (9532 in chips)
Seat 5: HappyDays626 (7223 in chips)
Seat 6: 14Hopper (9099 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRanks (11257 in chips)
Seat 8: visjeatwater (27651 in chips)
Seat 9: Mik3ma (22163 in chips)
pokerok18: posts the ante 60
Olga03061969: posts the ante 60
cily200: posts the ante 60
Superfizzy: posts the ante 60
HappyDays626: posts the ante 60
14Hopper: posts the ante 60
MrRanks: posts the ante 60
visjeatwater: posts the ante 60
Mik3ma: posts the ante 60
MrRanks: posts small blind 250
visjeatwater: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRanks [As Qd]
Mik3ma: folds
pokerok18: folds
Olga03061969: raises 1000 to 1500
cily200: folds
Superfizzy: folds
HappyDays626: folds
14Hopper: folds
MrRanks: raises 9697 to 11197 and is all-in
visjeatwater: folds
Olga03061969: calls 8457 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1240) returned to MrRanks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8d Qh]
*** TURN *** [Kh 8d Qh] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8d Qh 6c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrRanks: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Queens)
Olga03061969: shows [Ac Jc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Olga03061969 collected 20954 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20954 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 8d Qh 6c Ts]
Seat 1: pokerok18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Olga03061969 showed [Ac Jc] and won (20954) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: cily200 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Superfizzy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HappyDays626 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 14Hopper (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MrRanks (small blind) showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: visjeatwater (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Mik3ma folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I had it a bit ass backwards, I was SB and villian was MP another reason I felt I had the stronger hand I guess. The more I mull it over though I just feel it was a lack of patience on my part, I gave the villian an opportunity to gamble for a double up and he took it with AJ suited.

 

Originally Posted by RyJS

Play looks fine to me. You're going to get a fold or be flipping the majority of the time. And occasionally will get called by AJ KQ suited hands. I prefer shoving to flatting oop. And making a min 3bet attempting to induce a light 4 bet shove is possible I guess but I'd prefer that if we had 25-30 bbs an villain about the same. With stack sizes shove here is by far the best option. You got the best possible scenario and got unlucky. Tough break.

Cheers RyJS, I was figuring that the times I get a fold, times I get called and stay in front + the times I win a flip made it a positive shove versus the times I get called and lose. The two 20k+ stacks to my left put me off flatting as if they were holding KJs, KQo they may come in cheap and that flop hits hands like that big leaving me with second pair top kicker and dead chips in the middle.

And as you say coming in with a min size re-raise is only gonna get him to re-bet/shove if he was willing to call an AI anyway, so either way I guess the chips were going in with the stack sizes we had. I felt that it was maybe a good spot to play an AI as a double up there helps with a deep run attempt.

Yes it has niggled me, the same reasoning that pushed for a shove (the 2 larger stacks to my left) is normally what would have led for an easy fold of AQos in that spot.

I normally nit right up when the optimal play is taken from me by position, stack size etc and feel anytime youre put in a spot where you think its shove or fold, then take a mo and ask yourself do you really need to shove? If the answers no then easy fold, I allowed patience to get away from me and convinced myself that a shove was warranted.

Dunno how he would of played had we seen a flop, if he standard c-bets and I raise over would he have called off his stack with no flush draw and a 4-outer for a straight who knows.....

As it turned out I was marginal favourite and lost, was it the best play to make (regardless of the fact I lost the hand) probably not, there could of been better spots around the corner. Oh well :-)

why arer u questing urself when u got it in great? all i see is a bad beat

unless u have a note from prev history where he opens 2.5< then all of a sudden u see a 3x and it screams strengh it might make an argument to fold kq or aj, a10 but aq just way tooo strong to ever lay down in this spot. still u have blocker to some of his ak aa combos playing great vs jjs and have 30 percent equity vs kk only reason we would just flat here is if u think villain will fold weaker hands to your shove and u want him to stack off or blinds have a feather squeeze trigger with perfect squeeze stacks flatting can be veryyyyyyyyy good in this spot