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  1. sandwich sandwich is offline

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    Dec 26th, 2005 (12/26/2005 7:30pm)

    I know this is definitely not a textbook play but was it a donk play??

    pokerstars Game #3444160043: Tournament #16921729, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/12/26 - 20:20:46 (ET)
    Table '16921729 11' Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: xSteelWheelx (3165 in chips)
    Seat 2: 2keen4u (1980 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: laylow510 (3612 in chips)
    Seat 4: Glückser (5226 in chips)
    Seat 5: Lyncoz (1165 in chips)
    Seat 6: jdohty (1650 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dennis55 (4276 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fodness (2065 in chips)
    Seat 9: garry59 (1890 in chips)
    xSteelWheelx: posts small blind 75
    2keen4u: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to laylow510 [3h 3s]
    laylow510: calls 150
    Glückser: folds
    Lyncoz: folds
    jdohty: folds
    Dennis55: calls 150
    Fodness: folds
    garry59: raises 450 to 600
    xSteelWheelx: folds
    2keen4u: folds
    laylow510: calls 450
    Dennis55: calls 450
    *** FLOP *** [Jh 6s 6d]
    laylow510: checks
    Dennis55: checks
    2keen4u is disconnected
    garry59: bets 1290 and is all-in
    laylow510: calls 1290
    Dennis55: folds
    *** TURN *** [Jh 6s 6d] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [Jh 6s 6d Qh] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
  2. Adam Adam is offline Emperor

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    Dec 26th, 2005 (12/26/2005 7:33pm) in reply to sandwich

    I'm going to suggest that if you want hand advice, you post without the result of the hand, so that people don't see the bad beat you took (if you're posting in another forum besides bad beats, that is).
     
  3. sandwich sandwich is offline

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    Dec 26th, 2005 (12/26/2005 7:45pm) in reply to Adam

    okay i took out the results can u move it back so I get analysis
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  4. sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2005 (12/27/2005 5:06am) in reply to sandwich

    An answer to the thread title:

    Yes:)
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    Dec 27th, 2005 (12/27/2005 10:52am) in reply to sippin_criss

     
  6. DoggerPA DoggerPA is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2005 (12/27/2005 12:43pm) in reply to sandwich

    I told sandwhich this was a bad play, but would like to hear others thoughts...

    First I do not call the raise with 33... Sure the EV is high that 1in8 times it hits, but is it as high as the amount of chips you lose the 7in8 times you miss. It cost you 450 more to see the flop, if you lose 7 times that is 3150, it is not possible to win that many chips here so it is -EV play.

    You are coin flip at best against any hand that does not have a 2 or 3 in it... and if they raised i dont think they have a 2 or 3.

    Now what type of hand may push all in here? maybe TT, 99, 88, 77 all of which dont want to see you catch a higher card, and they would be right most of the time to think you have a higher card. Sure All in is a risk with with the J, but it is only one over card.

    if you knew his cards were what they are, you are still only a 60-40 favorite to win, not exactly overwhellming.

    Now if your hand holds up great, you made a lucky call, but i just dont like the call preflop to begin with.

    Others thoughts?
  7. OMG_LOL_WTF OMG_LOL_WTF is offline

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    Dec 28th, 2005 (12/28/2005 5:32pm) in reply to sandwich

    I hope you put him on 22 because that's the only hand you can beat at showdown. LOL

    I echo the setiments of the bad preflop call. Set-farming in a raised pot is acceptable when it's less than 10% of your stack and ideally around 5%.
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