Full Tilt Poker Game #12112080641: $15,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (90487444), Table 15 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:28:52 ET - 2009/05/09

Seat 1: AKingQJ_TeN (106,477)

Seat 2: S Glenn (4,164)

Seat 3: Dubya32 (27,652)

Seat 4: dfg3bvl (21,834)

Seat 5: darkangel102 (17,550)

Seat 6: Del Allison (29,435)

Seat 7: Abelian (36,816)

Seat 8: EcoGeddon (18,037)

Seat 9: loucabratz (17,178)

AKingQJ_TeN antes 75

S Glenn antes 75

Dubya32 antes 75

dfg3bvl antes 75

darkangel102 antes 75

Del Allison antes 75

Abelian antes 75

EcoGeddon antes 75

loucabratz antes 75

S Glenn posts the small blind of 300

Dubya32 posts the big blind of 600

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Abelian [Qh Qc]

dfg3bvl has 15 seconds left to act

dfg3bvl folds

darkangel102 raises to 2,775

Del Allison folds

Abelian raises to 6,000

EcoGeddon folds

loucabratz folds

AKingQJ_TeN folds

S Glenn calls 3,789, and is all in

Dubya32 folds

darkangel102 calls 3,225

*** FLOP *** [5c Td 5d]

darkangel102 bets 11,475, and is all in

Abelian calls 11,475

darkangel102 shows [Tc Th]

Abelian shows [Qh Qc]

S Glenn shows [Ad Js]

*** TURN *** [5c Td 5d] [9h]

*** RIVER *** [5c Td 5d 9h] [Ts]

darkangel102 shows four of a kind, Tens

Abelian shows two pair, Queens and Tens

darkangel102 wins the side pot (26,772) with four of a kind, Tens

S Glenn shows two pair, Tens and Fives

darkangel102 wins the main pot (13,542) with four of a kind, Tens

Abelian: im confused

S Glenn stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 40,314 Main pot 13,542. Side pot 26,772. | Rake 0

Board: [5c Td 5d 9h Ts]

Seat 1: AKingQJ_TeN (button) folded before the Flop

Seat 2: S Glenn (small blind) showed [Ad Js] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives

Seat 3: Dubya32 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 4: dfg3bvl folded before the Flop

Seat 5: darkangel102 showed [Tc Th] and won (40,314) with four of a kind, Tens

Seat 6: Del Allison folded before the Flop

Seat 7: Abelian showed [Qh Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens

Seat 8: EcoGeddon folded before the Flop

Seat 9: loucabratz folded before the Flop

3 bet more. Also.....The word you are looking for is standard. There is around 17K in the pot. What else are you going to do with 11K?

I'm sure Zee Dustin is kidding...

 

Originally Posted by AmorfusBlob

lol him shoving the flop>your omgz I have QQ I hope I get 5 callers and still win 3bet

You are joking too right? He shoves 11k when I have 29k and expect to get called 100% of the time? You think the goal of raising to 6k is to get 5 callers? He raised over 4x, my raise was to 6k at 200 400

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Poker Room Robots
I’ve already touched on the subject of poker room computer opponents. We know there are some software robots available to players to use on sites but how about robots used by the sites themselves? It’s entirely possible that the sites use robots to make them even more money. Now the big question that is on your mind is why would a site do this? Why would a site deliberately steal money from their players? Wouldn’t the players get tired of losing and leave the site?

That’s a great question but ask yourself this... If you were playing poker and you took some bad beats but then won some money back to even you out plus a few extra dollars, would you care? Of course not, in fact, it would keep you right where you were!

The poker room software can track players by profit. Every player is monitored and a balance is kept throughout all players. When a new player joins the site they are allowed to win against the sites robots at first. Slowly they start to lose money to the point where they have no money. If they lose everything and do not deposit the site will send them an email telling them they have free money waiting in their account to try again. The site wants them back as players. If they lose all of their money and re-deposit again the site now knows that this player ID will deposit again with little work to be done on the part of the site. The site robots have easy access to this information and allow the player to win a decent amount of money.

This makes the player think it is very possible to make money on the site. The robots track the player statistically and test what limits are being played and how much is being wagered. The robots then rate the player to know how much they can take from the player without losing them. For the players who continually deposit money and lose it and then instantly put more money in the account, the robots keep draining these people. These are the people who are all over the Internet losing money daily and being completely ruined. These are the people who are raising or calling an All-In with AA and losing to 49 full house. These are the people who have played great starting hands with no luck and have played garbage hands with no luck. They have no idea what to play anymore or how to proceed. All they know is that they want to win their money back but it is impossible without the proper software or strategies.

The players who are a flight risk that do not deposit much and play lower limits are kept around and untouched. They are even allowed to win more hands than usual. The site allows them this freedom so they stick around. These players are needed to keep the rake fed at all times and also praise the site when others complain. So why would people stay on the site if they continue to lose over and over again? It’s called human nature and one of the worst human traits is not knowing when to quit while gambling. It is programmed as greed in all human beings, some are more controlled by it and others are able to stop. These humans that are controlled by greed are the ones that will keep depositing until they are broke. Even if they lose time and time again they will keep coming back. If they don’t come back for a while the next time they do come back they are allowed to win to restore their faith. After that initial win they are continually drained time and time again and the cycle starts all over.

Is this how it really works? That is for you to decide but all of this is possible and actually not hard to keep track of at all. If you have ever visited some of the poker tracking web sites online, you can enter in a player id and the site will tell you the stats of that player. It will even label them as a fish or a shark. If simple web sites are able to do this I would think a billion dollar operation does the same thing only on a higher level.

The players are controlled by both the RNG and the site robots. The RNG will deal them complete garbage if they are to lose to keep the cycle even. If there are no robots on the table the RNG will also be in charge of picking the winner each time. Remember, the RNG can put more luck in favor of those who do not deposit a lot because they know the mass depositors will be back again to keep the rake crowd happy.

If you have taken a break from online poker and then returned do you notice you win more? Some would say that the time off gave you a better picture of the game and you were playing wiser. However, next time you do this, you’ll see if you call with complete garbage you’ll be flopping straights, flushes and full houses. Your pocket aces will turn into four of a kind aces and your pocket twos will make trips on the flop to kill your opponents pocket aces. Three people at the table will have a pocket pair and your hand will miraculously make trips again. Try it out and I guarantee you will be amazed. Just watch out because after you win a few extra bucks you’re new found luck will turn into bad news fast even if you are playing only top rated hands. Your pocket pairs will be long gone and you’ll be dealt 38o for eternity.
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