Whats up poker players of the pocket 5 community (p5ers)!!!


I just wanted to know if anyone here believes that on all online sites when your running good, straight after you are smacked left right and centre with bad beats, for sure I know you cant run good all the time just seems to me when I am playing well on a site making final tables E.T.C soon after I am being dumped out of tourneys all the time to some jokers who catch the exact cards they need to take me out with usually runner runner (that seems to be the most popular exit for me currently lol)

888 has been the biggest joke so far came on the site couple months ago running well first ten tourneys made final table 6 times average field of 200 or so and there are a whole lot of fishes on the site, so i just bide my time wait to see some flops and build my stack when they ridiculously over bet with nothing, however since going $600 dollars in profit and I only play small stakes mind, average of $5 I cannot hit anything every single fish hits exactly what they need, I mean just the the other day 20 players left I have K K and I have 80,000 in chips a guy calls all in from U.T.G he has 120,000 so for a double up for me I call he turns over 7 2 off suit and hits quad 2's on the flop I mean fking hell.
So basically I know sometimes your due to run bad but does anyone out there feel the same way, is this CONSPIRACY or REALITY?

I would love to hear you lots views or experiences and any sites you feel it happens more or less on if at all.

confirmed conspiracy

i strictly play on the rigged sites

Seems what happens to me is ,I buy in at a new site and you win a few hundred dollars, then it is all downhill from there, until all your money is gone.. This has happened to me at more sites than one. So now I don't deposit much. just enough for the tourney i will play, or a buy, into a cash table. I also play brick and morter, and I do lose, but I have never lost my whole bankroll playing live! So this looks very suspicious to me. LOL.

 

Originally Posted by Spellzman

Wicked Goofus, 1 vote reality 1 vote conspiracy, I am 100% with you on this I do the same focus on 1 or 2 tourneys and deposit for them.

Ya see at 1st I thought theres nothing in it for these sites cause someone has to win the tourney and they will have to pay out same way, but then it occured to me that once your moneys gone you will reload funds and thats where they profit got us hook line and sinker bro. haha

They dont maek money off you if you go broke,...they make money off of you paying RAKE, so it would be in the sites best interest to have you never go broke, therefore there is no incentive for a site to make you "run bad"

I do understand where you are coming from though.

how many times do you catch runner runner to suck out, swings in roundabouts.

 

Originally Posted by elimherr

*facepalm*

haha

 

Originally Posted by elimherr

They dont maek money off you if you go broke,...they make money off of you paying RAKE, so it would be in the sites best interest to have you never go broke, therefore there is no incentive for a site to make you "run bad"

WTF,of course they make money off you while you are going broke, then when you reload they make more money, if you reload lots they think you are rich so you continually lose and they continually make money

it is legend that lots of the guys who have made money only ever deposited once, so there you have it, find a site where you only deposit once and stick to it, if you lose your bankroll, win a freeroll, dont reload - lol

 

Originally Posted by norv

WTF,of course they make money off you while you are going broke, then when you reload they make more money, if you reload lots they think you are rich so you continually lose and they continually make money

it is legend that lots of the guys who have made money only ever deposited once, so there you have it, find a site where you only deposit once and stick to it, if you lose your bankroll, win a freeroll, dont reload - lol

My point exactly.

I feel like everyone always overlooks something obvious in these discussions, too, which is that the site can obviously plant its own employees in spots to shave money from the alleged prize pools. From a technical standpoint, how hard would it be to set a guy up playing 6 or 8 icons at once, and see the hands play out before he even has to act? By the way, keep in mind that up to a certain point I was crushing medium sized tourneys online - through Black Friday on Bodog, for example, I had final tabled 12% of MTTs in a 5 year run, and cashed at over 20%. Since then: two measly cashes in a year and a half. That's it. Something obviously changed there, because I'm not running so poorly on any other site. I only add this because I too am not some complaining donk who keeps donating. But some of what happens seems...curious to say the least.

Hey NFLD77 , listen I really appreciate your reply I echo your whole statement apart from the bit where you play live at a local bar but I am sure I would win 30% of the time too (only kidding) :)
On a serious note though that whole passage is me I live and breathe what you just wrote similar buy ins similar luck and depressingly similar feeling when I press that deposit button.

One statement I absolutely agree with is the fact that when your short stacked you could wait for the best possible hand regardless of what the hand is you are going out.

Take 888 for instance I have started playing on there on the last couple of months and if you are ever the short stack your out it is so bad to the point table chip leaders will make any donk call on your hand cause they know it will win and I have witnessed some disgraceful calls when I am short stacked and seen the horror unfold when 10 2 off cracks my qq, I changed to 888 because my regular site BAD BEAT pokerstars the fields are often too large and that beat will come for me at the most pivotal point possible when I am large stacked a field of 13 left and my aa will lose to ak suited E.T.C and I bubble, it just always seems to happen to me when Its for the most important possible stack I have an opponent totally dominated and come crushing out with the table responding so sick (lol it is too regular)

In all honesty that is why I started this article just to see how other players are affected, as I have said numerous times you are going to have bad beats this is poker I expect that but why oh why does it happen so regular? and to the point where you have ak against aq blank until the turn and then you know that queen is coming on the river to take you out the tourney surely people have to realise that this is actually reality that these sites have to protect their business and use unauthodox methods at times to sustain profits (starting too sound a little like conspiracy again haha)
In all honesty I think it is more real than people notice and if it is not happening to you then your a millionaire by now and probably not reading this.

NFLD77 thanks for your 2 cents as it is echos my experiences too.

Thanks for the response Spellzman..I wish you the best of luck and hopefully the tables turn for both of us!! All the very best!

All winning players will say its not rigged and all losing players will say it is. One things for sure, the money cant go round and round because the rake will eat it all up and then there will be no money left lol. I just think its a question that will never be answered but if you feel your in a rigged game dont play. All pokersites are the same. When i first deposited on fulltilt, i went on a crazy run where all i could do is come first or second in their sit and goes $20 to $100 buyings, after i withdrew all went down hill, same on party £10 to £750 one night, withdrew never again, pokerstars on the other hand i just started losing, so i respect them for that in away because it was clear to me that fulltilt and party tried to lure me in. Another thing not to get sucked into is people saying, oh just play higher stakes because theres less bad beats against better players, well thats just bs, its the same up there and when you think how could that donkey call your 4 bet with a2 off and flop a straight, you check his stats to console yourself that his a losing player and your jaw drops because he has over $2mill profit lol, maybe winning players were born lucky haha. I dont think i will ever crack poker so i will just play for the fun of it.

Good luck at the tables :)

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