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  1. Full Tilt Poker Game #12550022964: Tier One 1,800 FTP Sit & Go (93529795), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:58:49 ET - 2009/05/31
    Seat 1: Mpatt1012 (1,500)
    Seat 2: kansasbam (1,500)
    Seat 3: ordinary_guy (1,500)
    Seat 4: MegaB1te (1,500)
    Seat 5: LOMK_AA (1,500)
    Seat 6: hodown21 (1,500)
    Seat 7: richlet (1,500)
    Seat 8: DeadButt (1,500)
    Seat 9: sharksj (1,500)
    Mpatt1012 posts the small blind of 15
    kansasbam posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ordinary_guy [8h As]
    ordinary_guy calls 30
    MegaB1te folds
    LOMK_AA folds
    hodown21 raises to 120
    richlet folds
    DeadButt calls 120
    sharksj folds
    Mpatt1012 folds
    kansasbam folds
    ordinary_guy calls 90
    *** FLOP *** [2s 3s 8d]
    ordinary_guy checks
    hodown21 bets 405
    DeadButt folds
    ordinary_guy raises to 1,380, and is all in
    hodown21 calls 975, and is all in
    ordinary_guy shows [8h As]
    hodown21 shows [Jc 2h]
    *** TURN *** [2s 3s 8d] [2d]
    *** RIVER *** [2s 3s 8d 2d] [Jd]
    ordinary_guy shows two pair, Eights and Twos
    hodown21 shows a full house, Twos full of Jacks
    hodown21 wins the pot (3,165) with a full house, Twos full of Jacks
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3,165 | Rake 0
    Board: [2s 3s 8d 2d Jd]
    Seat 1: Mpatt1012 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: kansasbam (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: ordinary_guy showed [8h As] and lost with two pair, Eights and Twos
    Seat 4: MegaB1te didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: LOMK_AA didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: hodown21 showed [Jc 2h] and won (3,165) with a full house, Twos full of Jacks
    Seat 7: richlet didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: DeadButt folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: sharksj (button) didn't bet (folded)

    This seriously happens to me alot on tilt I have had it happen about 10x this week, WHO do i pay for training?
  2. PM Bax
  3. if you had held would you be asking this question?
  4. You butchered that hand pretty badly. So yes I would get some training if i were you.

    GL
  5. It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.
    Thread Starter
  6. I Really need to start playing bodog mtts.
  7. Personally this is definitely my favorite of the week.

    was in 15k super turbo we were 4 handed and he had shoved last 4 hands so I figured why not.

    1800Shipit folds
    mtbguy folds
    IFold2Chex raises to 315, and is all in
    ordinary_guy calls 210, and is all in
    IFold2Chex shows [9c 6d]
    ordinary_guy shows [9h 7h]
    Uncalled bet of 75 returned to IFold2Chex
    *** FLOP *** [4d Jd 8d]
    *** TURN *** [4d Jd 8d] [2d]
    *** RIVER *** [4d Jd 8d 2d] [5s]
    IFold2Chex shows a flush, Jack high
    ordinary_guy shows Jack Nine high
    IFold2Chex wins the pot (480) with a flush, Jack high
    ordinary_guy: oh cmon
    ordinary_guy: joke fk site
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 480 | Rake 0
    Board: [4d Jd 8d 2d 5s]
    Seat 2: mtbguy (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: IFold2Chex (small blind) showed [9c 6d] and won (480) with a flush, Jack high
    Seat 5: ordinary_guy (big blind) showed [9h 7h] and lost with Jack Nine high
    Seat 6: 1800Shipit didn't bet (folded)

    Guy goes on to tell me of course that hes amazing because he ft the 750k and of course its my fault for calling with 97 instead of just stfu he has to start crap of course.
    Thread Starter
  8. lol at complaining at a bad beat from a super turbo
  9. Fold preflop
     
  10. Things u did wrong in this hand....

    1. Limp utg w/ A8o. Fold this hand everytime pre from this position.

    2. Call a raise pre OOP (out of position) w/ A8o. This is not a hand u want to play OOP ever.

    3. Checking TP/TK (top pair, top kicker) on the flop. Now that u gotten into this hand, u hit a decent flop. U need to lead out to get a feel for where u are at in the hand.

    4. Playing a huge pot early in a tourney w/ only one pair. U check raise all in with basically no idea where u are at in the hand. U are risking ur entire tourney life in the first level w/ just one pair, this is just super weak.

    Just because the villain turned out to be a super donk doesnt mean u played the hand well at all. Dont be results oriented. U SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THIS HAND TO BEGIN WITH TO GET SUCKED OUT ON. Super donk will give his chips away eventually, look for better spots to get involved.

    And yes, u def need training. If u can afford it I would recommend pokerxfactor.com, otherwise read harrington on holdem. Start w/ volume 1, if u can digest the basic principles in this book then move on to volume 2. Try to use better hand selection and pay attention to ur position on the table, and if u can learn to do this then at least its a start.
  11.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.
  12.  
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man
    Thread Starter
  13. Also as you guys obviously dont get A8 is a great hand as seen here, in my tourney right before this the PROFESIONAL HIMSELF SHOWS ME !!!



    Full Tilt Poker Game #12549966876: Tier One 1,800 FTP Sit & Go (93529466), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:54:43 ET - 2009/05/31
    Seat 1: MegaB1te (1,485)
    Seat 2: ordinary_guy (1,545)
    Seat 3: thedubs (1,440)
    Seat 4: Jsek (1,500), is sitting out
    Seat 5: PFabe (1,500)
    Seat 6: Scott Fischman (1,500)
    Seat 7: fullh15 (1,530)
    Seat 8: whaleny (1,500)
    Seat 9: general35 (1,500)
    thedubs posts the small blind of 15
    Jsek posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ordinary_guy [6c 6d]
    PFabe folds
    Scott Fischman calls 30
    fullh15 folds
    whaleny folds
    general35 has 15 seconds left to act
    Jsek has returned
    general35 folds
    MegaB1te folds
    ordinary_guy raises to 1,545, and is all in
    thedubs folds
    Jsek folds
    Scott Fischman calls 1,470, and is all in
    ordinary_guy shows [6c 6d]
    Scott Fischman shows [8s As]
    Uncalled bet of 45 returned to ordinary_guy
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Qs 2d]
    *** TURN *** [Jd Qs 2d] [4h]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd Qs 2d 4h] [Ad]
    ordinary_guy shows a pair of Sixes
    Scott Fischman shows a pair of Aces
    Scott Fischman wins the pot (3,045) with a pair of Aces
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3,045 | Rake 0
    Board: [Jd Qs 2d 4h Ad]
    Seat 1: MegaB1te didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: ordinary_guy (button) showed [6c 6d] and lost with a pair of Sixes
    Seat 3: thedubs (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: Jsek (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: PFabe didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: Scott Fischman showed [8s As] and won (3,045) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 7: fullh15 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: whaleny didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: general35 didn't bet (folded)
    Thread Starter
  14. hhahhah i love when people never think they do anything wrong and always believe others are the ones who are wrong, same in life people are always transferring the blame and so unwilling to accept responsilbility sadehsretjhykjykr54y7

    /life lesson, fold pre
     
  15.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    OMFG... this is a level, right?
  16.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    level?
  17. I like how he capitalized High and Low. Made me giggle for some reason.
  18. got me, nice level, dam
  19.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    OP brings up a good point - here's why:

    * People don't trap enough with A8 in EP and instead shove 100bb wide which gives away the true strength of their hand.

    * Also A8 plays well against the Hi / Lo ranges in a multiway pot and makes him a favorite to scoop.

    * The multi-flush argument is also a strong point bc a player held 2 suited cards he would only could only potentially make one flush (outside of the board playing). A8o literally doubles your chances of hitting a flush.

    * Scott Fischman is a "professional" so he must know what he's doing.
  20. DO
    NOT
    LIMP
    A8o
    UTG
    EVA
  21. lmfao at this thread has to be a level, i wouldnt be suprised tho if not

    lol at the dude saying op has a point

    personally ill min raise a8 utg there, play better
  22.  
    Originally Posted by TW1977 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    OP brings up a good point - here's why:

    * People don't trap enough with A8 in EP and instead shove 100bb wide which gives away the true strength of their hand.

    * Also A8 plays well against the Hi / Lo ranges in a multiway pot and makes him a favorite to scoop.

    * The multi-flush argument is also a strong point bc a player held 2 suited cards he would only could only potentially make one flush (outside of the board playing). A8o literally doubles your chances of hitting a flush.

    * Scott Fischman is a "professional" so he must know what he's doing.

    ^^^^^^FINALLY a PLAYER with the FKING 'HORSE SENSE' that poker needs! One that I can truly look up to.

    TW1977 PLEASE name your price for lessons.
    Thread Starter
  23.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by TW1977 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    OP brings up a good point - here's why:

    * People don't trap enough with A8 in EP and instead shove 100bb wide which gives away the true strength of their hand.

    * Also A8 plays well against the Hi / Lo ranges in a multiway pot and makes him a favorite to scoop.

    * The multi-flush argument is also a strong point bc a player held 2 suited cards he would only could only potentially make one flush (outside of the board playing). A8o literally doubles your chances of hitting a flush.

    * Scott Fischman is a "professional" so he must know what he's doing.

    ^^^^^^FINALLY a PLAYER with the FKING 'HORSE SENSE' that poker needs! One that I can truly look up to.

    TW1977 PLEASE name your price for lessons.

    Needmoney,

    I want to say that I have been outleveled (for the sake of humanity), but I suspect yr post is genuine...

    Take everything you know about poker and do the EXACT opposite and you will make money. Otherwise, yes do you need training (Pokerxfactor is a good place to start btw).
  24.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    WHO do i pay for training?



    http://www.tonylittle.com/
  25. I personally am pretty upset at 1977, I thought you seriously understood what I was saying????
    Thread Starter
  26.  
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    I personally am pretty upset at 1977, I thought you seriously understood what I was saying????

    nobody w/ half a brain is going to understand what ur saying because it doesnt make any logical sense. He was obv making fun of u and u just didnt get it. The hi/lo reference should have tipped u off given tht NLH isnt a hi/lo game. I think u would be better off coming out and telling everyone that this whole thread has been a level the entire time, so we wont worry that there really are people as stupid as u out there. And no u dont need training because u have already proved it wont do any good because u r apparently unable to listen to common sense, therefore negating any value training might offer. U should def quit poker 4ever, but u wont, so I just pray that I see u at one of my tables very soon.
  27. You should have caught that joke....
  28. Dude, get all three vulumes of Harrington on Holdem....Read them....
  29. You should seriously stop watching that fucking clown asshole gder01's vidzzz on youtube!!!!

    IMFO
  30.  
    Originally Posted by herbstreet24 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p0cket00 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by needmoney View Post

    It doesnt hold,. I really have 10 more hands I could post from this week where wtf, I no longer believe its real either employee players-computer players- whatever, who knows, but not real poker.

    This is how terrible players always talk while focusing on all the wrong things. Snap fold your A8 preflop in early position.

    R U serious??? I have no idea how you have won anything.

    With A8 off I can hit High & Low boards as well as make 2 different flushes, besides the limp in early position was a trap to get more players in since I basically have a 'jack of all trades' hand! Get a fkin clue man

    OMFG... this is a level, right?

    yes, A8os can do anything, LMFAO, level of the century obv......right?!!?!??

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