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  1. TheJunkie TheJunkie is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 7:55pm)

    How are these shoves into 5 stacks profitable? Granted we each had roughly 15bbs. FWIW, we're not near any bubbles. Can someone post some numbers so that I can see how this is profitable? I tried using PS, but it doesn't seem to work for this situation or I'm not doing it correctly. QJo is obviously ahead of one random hand, but how do the numbers change with the increase of random hands? Meaning is there a drastic or slight decrease? Seems like a spewy play to just pick up 2.5 blinds, but obviously djk owns. Thanks.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #15275050047: $22,500 Guarantee (111827727), Table 52 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:52:48 ET - 2009/10/11
    Seat 1: Sternbfree (7,770)
    Seat 2: TheJunkie (6,830)
    Seat 3: drexxel7 (7,095)
    Seat 4: bla2mb (7,406)
    Seat 5: gettin deep (7,595)
    Seat 6: Frank1The1Tank (9,843)
    Seat 7: Skully18 (20,079)
    Seat 8: meaneye (16,510)
    Seat 9: imabigkidnow (24,804)
    Sternbfree antes 50
    TheJunkie antes 50
    drexxel7 antes 50
    bla2mb antes 50
    gettin deep antes 50
    Frank1The1Tank antes 50
    Skully18 antes 50
    meaneye antes 50
    imabigkidnow antes 50
    bla2mb posts the small blind of 250
    gettin deep posts the big blind of 500
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TheJunkie [Ac Ah]
    Frank1The1Tank folds
    Skully18 has 15 seconds left to act
    Skully18 folds
    meaneye has 15 seconds left to act
    meaneye folds
    imabigkidnow raises to 24,754, and is all in
    Sternbfree folds
    TheJunkie calls 6,780, and is all in
    drexxel7 folds
    bla2mb folds
    gettin deep folds
    imabigkidnow shows [Js Qc]
    TheJunkie shows [Ac Ah]
    Uncalled bet of 17,974 returned to imabigkidnow
    *** FLOP *** [Qd 6c 3h]
    *** TURN *** [Qd 6c 3h] [7c]
    *** RIVER *** [Qd 6c 3h 7c] [Qh]
    imabigkidnow shows three of a kind, Queens
    TheJunkie shows two pair, Aces and Queens
    imabigkidnow wins the pot (14,760) with three of a kind, Queens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 14,760 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qd 6c 3h 7c Qh]
    Seat 1: Sternbfree folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: TheJunkie showed [Ac Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
    Seat 3: drexxel7 (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: bla2mb (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: gettin deep (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: Frank1The1Tank folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: Skully18 folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: meaneye folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: imabigkidnow showed [Js Qc] and won (14,760) with three of a kind, Queens
     
  2. anticure anticure is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 7:57pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    because everyone is short enough and he doesnt want to call a shove
     
  3. DirtySecreT DirtySecreT is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 7:58pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    you dont post this if the river queen comes, do you?..
  4. rainmanrcp rainmanrcp is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:01pm) in reply to DirtySecreT

    I think he probably would, I do agree that it seems like a really unneccessary play with QJ...basically open shove with a marginal hand theres no reason for it at all.
  5. GrayFOX22 GrayFOX22 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:01pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    Confirmed: That is a DJK shove.
     
  6. cotchery89 cotchery89 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:03pm) in reply to DirtySecreT

    most of the stacks behind are JUST above the amount of bbs necessary for DJK to make a call with any two broadway cards

    instead of having to fold to stacks such as those, he elects to take the aggressive route and pick a hand that has pretty damn good equity against all your calling ranges
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  7. Donkey Kong Donkey Kong is offline it's on like me

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:03pm) in reply to rainmanrcp

     
    Originally Posted by rainmanrcp View Post

    I think he probably would, I do agree that it seems like a really unneccessary play with QJ...basically open shove with a marginal hand theres no reason for it at all.

    if everyone folds, he wins!
  8. Slingtownorbust Slingtownorbust is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:05pm) in reply to Donkey Kong

    is this why its easier to beat high stakes than the micros?
  9. anticure anticure is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:07pm) in reply to Slingtownorbust

    his shove is fine
     
  10. PeachesForMe PeachesForMe is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:07pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    this thread sucks. the shove is profitable, but since you woke up with the top of your range, you think its awful. pretty standard jam
     
  11. rainmanrcp rainmanrcp is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:16pm) in reply to PeachesForMe

    Alright, i just noticed that the larger stacks at the table folded infront of him and it makes alot more sense now lol.
  12. Wein Wein is offline Sunday Millionaire

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:22pm) in reply to TheJunkie

     
    Originally Posted by TheJunkie View Post

    18:52:48 ET - 2009/10/11
    Seat 1: Sternbfree (7,770)
    Seat 2: TheJunkie (6,830)
    Seat 3: drexxel7 (7,095)
    Seat 4: bla2mb (7,406)
    Seat 5: gettin deep (7,595)
    Seat 6: Frank1The1Tank (9,843)
    Seat 7: Skully18 (20,079)
    Seat 8: meaneye (16,510)
    Seat 9: imabigkidnow (24,804)

    highlighted the important information for you.
     
  13. iloseflips2424 iloseflips2424 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:28pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    dont post stuff like this
     
  14. Appst08 Appst08 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:34pm) in reply to iloseflips2424

    i don't get how you have respectable profit n this game and don't understand this shove.

    sighs :(
     
  15. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:34pm) in reply to Wein

     
    Originally Posted by Wein View Post

     
    Originally Posted by TheJunkie View Post

    18:52:48 ET - 2009/10/11
    Seat 1: Sternbfree (7,770)
    Seat 2: TheJunkie (6,830)
    Seat 3: drexxel7 (7,095)
    Seat 4: bla2mb (7,406)
    Seat 5: gettin deep (7,595)
    Seat 6: Frank1The1Tank (9,843)
    Seat 7: Skully18 (20,079)
    Seat 8: meaneye (16,510)
    Seat 9: imabigkidnow (24,804)

    highlighted the important information for you.

    See? Wein did all the work for you! DJK rules!
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  16. TheJunkie TheJunkie is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 8:51pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    Will u also make this play with the top of your range? If so, then I can see the merit. If not, seems pretty transparent.

    And I do understand that you can't raise fold. Seems like a standard raise would have a lot more "strength" to it vs an open shove.
     
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  17. alexross1977 alexross1977 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 9:08pm) in reply to GrayFOX22

     
    Originally Posted by GrayFOX22 View Post

    Confirmed: That is a DJK shove.

    *smile*
  18. IbizaCF3 IbizaCF3 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 9:47pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    fwiw I believe djk would make the same play w the top of his range, as well as a lot more of his range than QJ here
  19. Whatshoulditbe Whatshoulditbe is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 10:26pm) in reply to TheJunkie

     
    Originally Posted by TheJunkie View Post

    Will u also make this play with the top of your range? If so, then I can see the merit. If not, seems pretty transparent.

    And I do understand that you can't raise fold. Seems like a standard raise would have a lot more "strength" to it vs an open shove.

    i've seen djk open shove this type of stack w/ AA

    but honestly do you think djk doesn't know that he has to balance his range???
     
  20. Believer82 Believer82 is offline

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    Oct 11th, 2009 (10/11/2009 10:37pm) in reply to Whatshoulditbe

    lol at this post
     
  21. sketchy1 sketchy1 is offline Dangerzone

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    Oct 12th, 2009 (10/12/2009 11:58pm) in reply to ApesAreFun

    this is such a fucking easy shove
      

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