Hey Everyone,

I've seen some post on here regarding the use of algorithms in the Full Tilt software, and yes this makes the site rigged... the algorithm was set in place to help the site catch people cheating (colluding) and also spread the wins around so there isn't a single player winning over 95% of the time at the same table.

But the algorithm does a lot more then just that... it seems to regard bad players, and gives out bad beats to the good players... this is done to encourage the bad players (New Members) to keep playing and not give up, and it also makes the good players depositing into their account.

Also in a tournament, after the first hour the system recognizes the stacks below 1,500 in chips, and it starts dealing them QQs, or JJs, for them to push all in, only to find themselves against KKs, or AAs. This is done to eliminate the short stacks quickly and keep the tournament fast pace.

This also happens in CASH games, if you have a big winning session you should get up, or the system will start dealing you good hands that will get cracked against bad player hands, in order to spread your winnings to the rest of the players at the table.

Here is a little something I have put together after a few months of research and personal experiences at the table, I would appreciate if some of you pros out there will post some of your winning hands, only to compare them to my study.

WINNING USING THE ALGORIGTHM HANDS ON FULL TILT


THE AK, AQ, AJ SITUATION

Here are some hands, that loose with the AK, AQ, AJ, KQ Factors:

Ah Jc (loser) Vs. Jh Qs (Winner)
As Kh (loser) Vs. Ad 8h (Winner)
As Kd (loser) Vs. 10d 8c (Winner)
Ah Qc (loser) Vs. Ad 10d (Winner)
Ad Ks (loser) Vs. Ac Qd (Winner)
Ad Ks (loser) Vs. Ac 8c (Winner)

LOOSING PAIRS ON FULL TILT

Here are some of the hands that will loose in an all in situation on Full Tilt:

10d 10s (loser) Vs 6h 6s (Winner)
Ac As (loser) Vs 9d 9h (Winner)
Ad As (loser) Vs 10d 10s (Winner)
As Ac (loser) Vs Jh 5h (Winner)
Kd Kh (loser) Vs 7h 5d (Winner)
Ac Ah (loser) Vs Kh Ks (Winner)
Qh Qc (loser) Vs 6c Jc (Winner)
Qs Qd (loser) Vs 5s 5d (Winner)
9h 9d (loser) Vs 6c 6h (Winner)
Ac Ad (loser) Vs Kh 7c (Winner)
Ks Kc (loser) Vs Ad 5h (Winner)
Ad Ah (loser) Vs 9c Qc (Winner)
Ks Kh (loser) Vs Jd Qd (Winner)
Ad Ah (loser) Vs Qs Ks (Winner)
Ad Ac (loser) Vs 8h 5h (Winner)
Qc Qd (loser) Vs 9d 9c (Winner)
Ad Ac (loser) Vs 10h 10c (Winner)
As Ah (loser) Vs Qh Qs (Winner)



WINNING HANDS USING THE ALGORITHM

The loosing hand will get a very strong drawing hand that will keep him in the hand till the river, and this is a process known as maximum betting.

A factor that is a strong candid for getting a winning hand is your chip stack after the first of a tournament and your position at the table.

Another factor for getting good hands is to be an aggressive player, example winning with a bluff the system will reward you by giving you more winning hands.

1) SB position has a 80% or greater of winning their hand no matter what they hold as long as the BB is out and they do not go all in. Going all in seems to skew the chances of the SB, so it's possibly some other rules that go into effect. Most of your bad beats, should be against the SB position or BB, which I will talk about next.

2) When you have BB vs SB statistically the winning cards go in favor of the BB unless the SB player can persuade the BB to fold his/her cards.

3) This last one is still a work in progress to understand how it works completely. When the SB is out and BB is in the hand versus other players the BB position has extremely large chance of losing the hand.

wait...you're joking right?

sorry, not believing a word that comes out your mouth, I know to many successful players and see the same shit happen live to often. I suggest you learn to play poker if you want to win an give up on tryin to discover a ponzy scheme

<<<<< Bad Beats

did you use the algerrhythm to get that $30 career high win?

Interesting conclusions. I Would like to see you post more of your couple of months research.

Let me spread one cold hard fact about poker. The GAME will never survive without losers. There must be people willing to poor money into the game or it will not sustain itself. So your theory of the site shifting money around by altering hands is just ludicris. The site is pulling money out at such a high rate that it would not take long before you was just left with the 10 or 15% of the players that are winners. Basically, poker is like a drug. People will continue to do it as long as they can. some find it in themselves to quit and some get a grip on it and win. Having a losing player crack your winning players hand occasionaly is not gonna help the loser at all.

LOL this was moved to bad beats.......guess they need to start a "just plain garbage" catagory

Here is a letter from an Ex Employee of Full Tilt, that worked on their software....

Bob Smith

Their are many folk out there arguing about if online poker is rigged or not…I would like to help put this to rest by stating that it is rigged in many different ways. I helped write some of the software for tilt ware LLC…while working on the full tilt site some of the other programmers and I were asked to install programming into the software that would recognize certain players and provide them with unbeatable hands. We were also asked to develop software that would provide what they called the “maximum opportunity to bet” which meant that the deals are rigged to deal out a lot of good starting hands to a lot of players so that the most betting possible would take place on every deal. The deal would then provide a monster flop in which at least two players would be all in before the river. (Ever wonder why nobody ever misses the flop online…because then no one would bet and that is not what full tilt wants) This keeps the tourneys fast paced and exciting which player’s love. Full tilt loves this too; the faster you lose the faster they can make more money off you by having enter another tourney.
There is also another way full tilt cheats you out of cash with their own personal players. These players are called house players and are fulltime employees of the Full tilt company. If you check some names and their online wins vs. loss records you will often find them with records that are simply unreal. I have seen some of these folks who win over 50 straight sessions without a loss…how can this be possible unless they are working on the inside. They come and go and change their names often but they play in the site with the full advantage of being able to see all the cards in play and in the deck.
Another programming trick we wrote into the software at full tilt is the levels trick…this trick takes place when a tournament has been running after the first break. The computer recognizes the different size of each players chip stack and begins to deal out hands in which a small stack will shove all in and a large stack will have a better hand to call with. Have you ever wondered why you get pocket QQs with 1500 chips and the guy next to you gets pockets KKs and he has 10,000 chips? The answer is simple the site is programmed to get you to play as much as possible. So we programmed the site to eliminate the small stack as quickly as possible so that they can go enter another tourney ASAP. The site is even programmed to adjust the flop for big stacks so that even if the big stack calls your hand with nothing he will end up beating your good made hand by the river. Often times the site will deal you back to back hands with the same cards but maybe different colors or suits. This “glitch” is a sign that the computer is adjusting the shuffle to start eliminating small stacks and allow the tourney to finish quicker.
The sooner a tournament is done the faster full tilt can have you back at another table spending more money…it is to this sites best interested to eliminate you from tables as fast as possible. There is no one to regulate how the company manipulates the software to their own advantage. There is no one to monitor how the company pays out its players and employees. Simply put, giving some offshore account your hard earned cash is simply insane. Thinking that these people aren’t cheating you out of your money is crazy, the site has many layers of hidden programming all set up to take full advantage of all types of players from novice to expert.
The main reason I wrote this blog is to expose the fraud that takes place at online gaming site known as Full tilt poker I was fired three months ago from the company that helped write the software. Yes I am bitter and mad but I do fell everyone so know how bad full tilt is and that is a site built by THIEVES!!

Then why are you attempting to crack the algorithm? Look dude, you are laughable, OMG your the king of all losers, what an ass you are. Pocketfives should not let you post these lies, misinforming players who are here to learn from one another and share strategies to enhance results at the very tables you say are rigged for no logical reason. Nothing you have to say has any merit whatsoever, you sir, are a whiny little bitch who needs to take some midol and get a fresh clean tampon. Now crawl away, leaving a trail of blood from your bleeding anus that one of us obviously gave you at a session at the tables. (positive reinforcement)Fully tracked, youre only down 300 bucks, in the money 17%, and you are very close to being a break even/profitable player, dont give up, work on YOU and what you are doing wrong instead of blaming others or you will never improve.

mid range suited cards win huge pots in games at the felt as well, has nothing to do with algorithms, watch Tom Dwan play sometime on PAD, once again, you have a strong beleif that big pocket pairs are entitled to win, if this is how you are playing poker, fold,fold,fold till a big pair comes around, you are playing the most basic style of poker and will be eaten alive by better players who will call your 3 and 4 bets with any 2 suited cards and catch a flop with favorable texture to bust you when you shove your AA or KK