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  1. boris64 boris64 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 12:18am)

    Hello all, haven't posted in quite some time.
    Here's a hand I've been discussing with a couple friends, played it badly in quite some ways but thought it's an interesting spot.
    Don't flame me this is not a bad beat post, I was discussing Shauro's call with a couple friends, some were for it based on pot odds etc.

    The river call is bad, but I could see this guy showing up with A2o here hence my decision to call...

    I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on my play as well as Shauro's

    Thanks

    Full Tilt Poker Game #26542283525: MiniFTOPS Main Event (190775720), Table 1527 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:20:21 ET - 2010/12/19
    Seat 1: simoperi (7,917)
    Seat 2: PhoenixBLR (5,220)
    Seat 3: augustos_357 (5,629)
    Seat 4: bobbyFISHer4 (8,895)
    Seat 5: clubflush5 (6,263)
    Seat 6: DiamondShauro (15,940)
    Seat 7: Boris Wayan (16,149)
    Seat 8: buck5037 (8,906)
    Seat 9: infomaniac420 (9,026)
    bobbyFISHer4 posts the small blind of 40
    clubflush5 posts the big blind of 80
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Boris Wayan [Ac 3c]
    DiamondShauro calls 80
    Boris Wayan raises to 320
    buck5037 calls 320
    infomaniac420 folds
    simoperi folds
    PhoenixBLR folds
    augustos_357 folds
    bobbyFISHer4 folds
    clubflush5 calls 240
    DiamondShauro calls 240
    *** FLOP *** [7s 3d Ad]
    clubflush5 bets 999
    DiamondShauro has 15 seconds left to act
    DiamondShauro calls 999
    Boris Wayan raises to 5,678
    buck5037 folds
    clubflush5 raises to 5,943, and is all in
    DiamondShauro has 15 seconds left to act
    DiamondShauro calls 4,944
    Boris Wayan calls 265
    *** TURN *** [7s 3d Ad] [Jd]
    DiamondShauro has 15 seconds left to act
    DiamondShauro checks
    Boris Wayan checks
    *** RIVER *** [7s 3d Ad Jd] [2c]
    DiamondShauro has 15 seconds left to act
    DiamondShauro bets 4,160
    Boris Wayan has 15 seconds left to act
    Boris Wayan has requested TIME
    Boris Wayan calls 4,160
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    DiamondShauro shows [4s 5s] a straight, Five high
    Boris Wayan shows [Ac 3c] two pair, Aces and Threes
    DiamondShauro wins the side pot (8,320) with a straight, Five high
    clubflush5 mucks
    DiamondShauro wins the main pot (19,149) with a straight, Five high
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 27,469 Main pot 19,149. Side pot 8,320. | Rake 0
    Board: [7s 3d Ad Jd 2c]
    Seat 1: simoperi didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: PhoenixBLR didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: augustos_357 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: bobbyFISHer4 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: clubflush5 (big blind) mucked [Kd As] - a pair of Aces
    Seat 6: DiamondShauro showed [4s 5s] and won (27,469) with a straight, Five high
    Seat 7: Boris Wayan showed [Ac 3c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
    Seat 8: buck5037 folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: infomaniac420 didn't bet (folded)
  2. Bsmith7 Bsmith7 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 12:25am) in reply to boris64

    That sucks bro, You played it like i would. The guy chasing all the way to the riv is just an idiot. BB on full tilt at its finest. Sometimes i think the best strategy on FT would be to play the bad hands and fold the good ones. haha.
  3. boris64 boris64 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 12:58am) in reply to Bsmith7

    I'd like to see how many people argue for the call on Shauro's part.
    he does have double gutshot and backdoor flush, plus I can't raise after the other shoves because of my 3bet sizing... at least I learned one thing from this hand.

    I think it's a horrid call but may be biased because I did flame after seeing his hand. Also you do have to take risks at some point in donkaments.

    now i'm frustrated cause he's running like a fucking god and stacking people all over the place
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  4. Suitedace87 Suitedace87 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 1:01am) in reply to boris64

    im def shoving turn after pre and post flop is played
  5. duffer230 duffer230 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 1:08am) in reply to Suitedace87

    I would fold pre.

    Edit: If I did choose to play there, would have went down in similar fashion. He was calling it down no matter your bet sizing..gurantee it.
    Edited By: duffer230 Dec 20th, 2010 at 01:09 AM
  6. HanoverHero HanoverHero is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 1:14am) in reply to duffer230

    His call on the flop is bad. He should be folding but if not just get it all in and see 2 cards. That being said, he gave you a chance to blast the turn and get the rest in good when he just calls you on the flop.

    What was your thought process on checking the turn? Pot control is over with at that point and I don't think you checking for deception after you make it 6k on the flop.
  7. eDaN eDaN is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 3:23am) in reply to HanoverHero

    BB forum weeeeeee
  8. TrueMetalMan TrueMetalMan is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 3:41am) in reply to eDaN

    I think he was scared of the flush on the turn and was hoping to boat on the riv.... Idk I am getting it in on the turn tho.
    Edited By: TrueMetalMan Dec 20th, 2010 at 03:41 AM
  9. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 3:48am) in reply to TrueMetalMan

    I think the main problem is even playing the hand at all. People are so deepstacked you are building a pot pre with a hand that you need to hit gin with to win since you are going to get multiple callers.

    As played, I think you have to jam turn - even though you may be dead on te flop already to AJ for instance.

    Regardless though, villain is a moron and should have jammed the flop if he was gonna commit.

    Very unlucky
     
  10. shallowcal shallowcal is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2010 (12/20/2010 3:52am) in reply to bonflizubi

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    I think the main problem is even playing the hand at all. People are so deepstacked you are building a pot pre with a hand that you need to hit gin with to win since you are going to get multiple callers.

    As played, I think you have to jam turn - even though you may be dead on te flop already to AJ for instance.

    Regardless though, villain is a moron and should have jammed the flop if he was gonna commit.

    Very unlucky

    +1
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