Originally Posted by ManchVegasPwn

A couple things I noticed about the merge RNG is that A-X pwns KQ all day... like honestly I'd have to say that A-X is beating KQ on here like 70% of the time over tens of thousands of hands probably. It felt the opposite was true at least on FTP and stars, which is kinda weird.

Another thing I noticed is that chops happen so much more often it seems with the board double pairing, or a straight/flush being run out as well.

I don't think it's rigged, but I have seen some fkd up hands happen which at one point made me think there could be possible super users, that could see what board cards were coming (only the board cards not everyones hole cards like the pot ripper scandal on UB)

I'm gonna post these hands, feel free to check them out... I'm not a rigged theorist, but at the same time, with all thats happened in the past, and the current state of online poker, I don't think anyone should be austracized for claiming rigged cuz clearly it could be possible with the way poker is right now.

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/36870408-5

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/36885098-87

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/37157671-7

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/37203845-109

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/38268621-173

http://lockpoker.eu/replay/TheKeymaker/38829566-64

TheKeymaker1,678$9 $19 52%$15,073 Tilt83Merge

TheKeymaker 201-$1 $5 0%-$107 Hot

These same players who make these "wtf" plays you talk about also have made you a big winner on Lock.

Keep whining tho...makes you look super cool

 

Originally Posted by ShyGuy03533

this is just retarded. people still have the notion that sites are rigged..
poker is not a casino game!!! its a people game!!! there is never a time that the house takes the pot n says 'fk u all!'

someone always wins, and someone loses. the house is NOT out to screw u. get over ur run bad/bad plays!

what about the people that havent gotten $$ from tilt? lol

 

Originally Posted by ManchVegasPwn

wasnt whining at all, and I have had like a 500 game streak where i was like -$2k so just bc I am showing a small profit really doesnt mean all that much. 15k is nothing imo.

Dude cmon...1678 games at the 20 buck level...15k is solid winnings for that buy in and volume.

maybe your 52 percent roi is less than what you expect..i dont know...shit...

maybe stop playing there then

agree

not something you want to read about when you want to put more volume in online and improve your game. (shark with 1mill wins questioning the RNG)

A site is rigged when it makes you bet KK into trup QQ, moron.

LMAO at all this my main gripe is kk losing a SOLID 80% i prefer taking naps when im all in i need those 3 seconds of rest it adds up. Especially when they think about it thats like 10 seconds extra on avg.

If it wasn't suited I would have more of an issue with it, but I've seen live players calling all ins with suited gapers who actually believed it was the right play because they read somewhere that pros play suited gapers.

It's funny, but for a while, I thought pokerstars would punish "aggressive" players (who went all-in after the flop), because whenever I did (AA, KK, etc), I would lose. But I change my mindset from looking at conspiracies, to figuring that if I went out, it wasn't going to be because I had crap cards.

Just an aside though, but I never thought pokerstars was "rigged", however, I believe it may be "scripted". The human element adds the extra difference. For example...if you had 9 players, an the following cards are dealt:

Player 1: Js Jc
Player 2: Kd Kc
Player 3: 8h 8d
Player 5 9h 10c

Now the "script would read that Player 5 would win, and the flop comes out:

Jd 8c Ks

Player 1 raises 2x
Player 2 goes all-in
Player 3 calls all-in
Player 5 folds

The turn is a 2s, and the river is the Qc (which if Player 5 had called, he would've won according to the script).

So the script has changed because of Player 5 folding, and Player 2 wins.

However, if Player 5 had made the call, then Players 1, 2 and 3 would've been on the P5 forum that night saying the site was rigged!! :)

 

Originally Posted by JinkyMcNuts

It's funny, but for a while, I thought pokerstars would punish "aggressive" players (who went all-in after the flop), because whenever I did (AA, KK, etc), I would lose. But I change my mindset from looking at conspiracies, to figuring that if I went out, it wasn't going to be because I had crap cards.

Just an aside though, but I never thought pokerstars was "rigged", however, I believe it may be "scripted". The human element adds the extra difference. For example...if you had 9 players, an the following cards are dealt:

Player 1: Js Jc
Player 2: Kd Kc
Player 3: 8h 8d
Player 5 9h 10c

Now the "script would read that Player 5 would win, and the flop comes out:

Jd 8c Ks

Player 1 raises 2x
Player 2 goes all-in
Player 3 calls all-in
Player 5 folds

The turn is a 2s, and the river is the Qc (which if Player 5 had called, he would've won according to the script).

So the script has changed because of Player 5 folding, and Player 2 wins.

However, if Player 5 had made the call, then Players 1, 2 and 3 would've been on the P5 forum that night saying the site was rigged!! :)

so, in short, you think the outcome is predetermined and in turn, rigged?

 

Originally Posted by JinkyMcNuts

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I would have to say that the outcome isn't predetermined, because the human element is a factor. Whether or not it actually is scripted, I guess we'd have to know who programmed it? I remember one tourney (a Sunday 1/4 million), where 29,700 people entered. I ended up getting KK and went all in. A guy called with A Q, and the flop came out Q Q A, and I thought "I'm done". But the river card came out a K, which gave me a higher boat and I won the hand. Very dramatic, but alot of hands are "very dramatic". In real life, I'm sure the cards are a bit more mundane.

Well i'm convinced. stars is rigged.

if the site is rigged, just make sure your non show down goes higher, easy fix.