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I hate donks.

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  1. jaxsunboi jaxsunboi is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 2:10pm)

    On the first hand, too!

    pokerstars Game #19991251908: Tournament #104117593, 25FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/29 - 14:00:00 (ET)
    Table '104117593 25' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: gigigenio (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Spray10 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: jaxsunboi (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: gyposdog (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: zwillinger78 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: UM PkerStr (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: Twist8 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: Godi1133 (1500 in chips)
    Spray10: posts small blind 10
    jaxsunboi: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jaxsunboi [8h 8c]
    gyposdog: folds
    zwillinger78: folds
    UM PkerStr has timed out
    UM PkerStr: folds
    UM PkerStr is sitting out
    Twist8: folds
    UM PkerStr has returned
    Godi1133: calls 20
    gigigenio: folds
    Spray10: folds
    jaxsunboi: raises 80 to 100
    Godi1133: raises 80 to 180
    magojavi is connected
    jaxsunboi: raises 320 to 500
    Godi1133: calls 320
    *** FLOP *** [Kc 5d Ks]
    jaxsunboi: bets 1000 and is all-in
    Godi1133: calls 1000 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [Kc 5d Ks] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [Kc 5d Ks 4c] [Ac]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jaxsunboi: shows [8h 8c] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
    Godi1133: shows [9h Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    Godi1133 collected 3010 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3010 | Rake 0
    Board [Kc 5d Ks 4c Ac]
    Seat 1: gigigenio (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Spray10 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: jaxsunboi (big blind) showed [8h 8c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
    Seat 4: gyposdog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: zwillinger78 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: UM PkerStr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Twist8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Godi1133 showed [9h Ad] and won (3010) with two pair, Aces and Kings
  2. jaxsunboi jaxsunboi is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 2:59pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    And here's the hand that just triggered a 24 hour self-exclusion...

    pokerstars Game #19992300644: Tournament #105027697, 15FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/29 - 14:50:08 (ET)
    Table '105027697 28' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: jchanarabe (1500 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 2: cindel111 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: björniek (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: hjplayer (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: pats2497 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: jaxsunboi (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: deano671 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: ..DerGute.. (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: marmor404 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 10: sothnman (1500 in chips)
    cindel111: posts small blind 10
    björniek: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jaxsunboi [Ac Ad]
    pats2497 said, "t u2"
    hjplayer has timed out
    hjplayer: folds
    hjplayer is sitting out
    pats2497: raises 80 to 100
    hjplayer has returned
    jaxsunboi: raises 340 to 440
    deano671: folds
    ..DerGute.. has timed out
    ..DerGute..: folds
    ..DerGute.. is sitting out
    marmor404: folds
    sothnman: folds
    jchanarabe: folds
    cindel111: folds
    björniek: raises 1020 to 1460
    pats2497: calls 1360
    jaxsunboi: raises 40 to 1500 and is all-in
    björniek: calls 40 and is all-in
    pats2497: calls 40 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 2s Jh]
    *** TURN *** [Qc 2s Jh] [Td]
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 2s Jh Td] [8d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    björniek: shows [As 5c] (high card Ace)
    pats2497: shows [Th Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
    jaxsunboi: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces)
    björniek is sitting out
    pats2497 collected 4510 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4510 | Rake 0
    Board [Qc 2s Jh Td 8d]
    Seat 1: jchanarabe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: cindel111 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: björniek (big blind) showed [As 5c] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 4: hjplayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: pats2497 showed [Th Ts] and won (4510) with three of a kind, Tens
    Seat 6: jaxsunboi showed [Ac Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 7: deano671 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: ..DerGute.. folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: marmor404 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 10: sothnman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  3. hummer hummer is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 3:09pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    Why blame donks they are not the ones who are manipulating the cards.
  4. jaxsunboi jaxsunboi is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 3:22pm) in reply to hummer

     
    Originally Posted by hummer View Post

    Why blame donks they are not the ones who are manipulating the cards.

    Oh great, so you're the one who's supposed to make it all better?

    Just go piss off, buddy. I am not in the mood to hear your crap.
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  5. kingcoleo kingcoleo is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 4:45pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    are these frequent player point tournaments?
  6. hummer hummer is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 5:09pm) in reply to kingcoleo

    This too shall pass
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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 9:36pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

     
    Originally Posted by jaxsunboi View Post

    And here's the hand that just triggered a 24 hour self-exclusion...

    pokerstars Game #19992300644: Tournament #105027697, 15FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/29 - 14:50:08 (ET)

    i lol'd
     
  8. stevel1017 stevel1017 is offline

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    Aug 29th, 2008 (8/29/2008 11:03pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    ok being constructive here, 1st hand of a fpp tourny, why risk your tourny life on 88, play it for set value, if miss move on
    both poorly played IMO
  9. jaxsunboi jaxsunboi is offline

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    Aug 30th, 2008 (8/30/2008 3:05am) in reply to stevel1017

     
    Originally Posted by stevel1017 View Post


    ok being constructive here, 1st hand of a fpp tourny, why risk your tourny life on 88, play it for set value, if miss move on
    both poorly played IMO

    Really? So I should just let a guy who limp-raised Ace-rag just bully me around like that? That doesn't seem like a way to get ahead in this game. And on the second hand, since the guy wasn't going anywhere, I should just fold? I'll give you the fact that my raise was a little weak, but aces are still aces.

    And to the guy who "lol'ed" earlier? I don't care if you're a Supernova Elite who plays 200/400 NL and earns 800 points an hour, you still don't have to be such a snob about it.
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  10. stevel1017 stevel1017 is offline

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    Aug 30th, 2008 (8/30/2008 6:52am) in reply to jaxsunboi

     
    Originally Posted by jaxsunboi View Post

     
    Originally Posted by stevel1017 View Post


    ok being constructive here, 1st hand of a fpp tourny, why risk your tourny life on 88, play it for set value, if miss move on
    both poorly played IMO

    Really? So I should just let a guy who limp-raised Ace-rag just bully me around like that?

    Is it about ego or winning the tournament?
    Me, I wait, choose a better spot
    1st you are UTG with only 88, 1st hand of the tourny. Limp to hit a set, if you miss you only lost 20, even if he raises, you can call the raise to set mine. You miss, but you live on, and the way he played the hand, seems like it will be easy to stack him later
    1st hand 88 UTG is NOT a strong hand

    and as for the guy who lol'd prolly was LOLing because in a 15 FPP you have to expect bad play, sucks to lose to it, but believe me, I play the $1 donk and go's and see tons of bad play rewarded, just keep getting your money in good and the math will work out in the long run
  11. jaxsunboi jaxsunboi is offline

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    Aug 30th, 2008 (8/30/2008 11:50am) in reply to stevel1017

    See, I keep hearing that. But when you've played in games where checking 77 in the big blind (in a situation much like that one) drew nothing but laughter, and where pre-flop raising is impossible because you know you're going to get repopped, it's pretty hard to believe it.

    Personally, I think I need to consider a new hobby. It's obvious that I lack something required to be good at this game, and with people like hummer sneaking around here just waiting to kick guys when they're down, it's not even worth the hassle to recount this stuff. Yeah, it'll hurt to lose a chance at my deposit bonus, but I guess I can just try to recoup that the next time I'm not in a state where this game is illegal.
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  12. hummer hummer is offline

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    Aug 30th, 2008 (8/30/2008 1:20pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    Hey I have never kicked anyone I just give you the answer to what is going on. Its not your fault and you will never figure it out. But I will tell you this, you cannot beat the site programs, thats what they are there for to beat you.

    And the guy who is telling to get your money in with the best hand and the Math will work out. It will never happen on-line at Live games yes, but on-line, forget it never happen.
  13. stevel1017 stevel1017 is offline

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    Aug 30th, 2008 (8/30/2008 7:22pm) in reply to jaxsunboi

    Get Harrington on Holdem, Vols I and II read them, read this board, Hand advice section, and Poker Discussion. It will help. I am not saying I know how to play the game, in fact there are many ways to play, I am only offering my views (I am a winning player in the lowest limits, you can look me up on OPR or sharkscope)
    But when you've played in games where checking 77 in the big blind (in a situation much like that one) drew nothing but laughter"
    let them laff, poker is not a sprint, but a marathon, the goal is in the long run to make money
    and for what it is worth (prolly not much) I check 77 in the BB early on all the time
    GL at teh tables
    oh and BTW hummer is always on about how on line is rigged, and it may be , but the fact is even live AA gets cracked by 55, KQ and even 72 off, part of the game
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