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  1. clamcellar clamcellar is offline

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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 6:57pm)

    anyone who thinks online poker is legit is an idiot. The same answers come to the same questions. Why so much varience? ( bigger hand sample) not bigger hand sample of hands played to river. Sites have no reason to care. Oh yes they do, they charge rake on quantity, they charge deposit fees and tilt creates larger betting to recover. Anyone who ever argues that point is either an employee or a moron. I have 450,000 hands logged. It is a pure fact that there always at everytime has to be atleast one card that flops, and boards the most. It has never not been the ace in 450,000 hands. I have written congressmen and the FBI and passed on my sampling.
  2. G2thV G2thV is offline

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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 9:46pm) in reply to clamcellar

    No one can prove that the actual deal is "rigged" for any reason, action, outcome etc., and until an insider comes forward and says, "ok here is what we are doing", fugget about it! I actually believe that day will come, and I'm sure some where on some blog or forum, that claim has already been made. I have to say though, 90% of what I find on the subject is typically stupid stuff about "My Aces (KK, QQ, AK, AQ) allways get busted when I limp utg or min raise in the pot". For me its not about bad beats and river chases that hit. What is just too obvious to me is later, around the bubble and last 3 and 4 tables. This is where I believe it becomes obvious that something is "taking over", and I am not talking about skilled players. Poker is about situations, not hands. (IMO) I see far too many "situations" evolve where 3 and 4 players have legitimate reasons to play out hands. There is just way too much action going on between medium to large stacks. And by that I mean in multi way pots. And if that isn't "rigtardish" enough for you, I actually think they get out of the way final table with about 5, 6 players left. Someone is going to claim thats because you are short handed and players are better, but, silly as it sounds, I believe they let the last 3 or 4 players play.

    Anyway, the other thing non rigtards like to say is, "why play?" Which would be a good question if you are in over your head. But what I say to my fellow rigtards is, look at it like a golfer hitting balls at the range. Practice hitting the difficult shots you have trouble with and mabey are a litte afraid of. Work on your "short game"! Seriously, start trying to raise and reraise enough to thin the table and get heads up situations more often. There are enough players that are not bots, cheating on skype, playing multi accounts that while you may see a sick river card, you will be able to bet some people out of the hand. You should quit if you cant handle being called a donk. Play more heads up s&gs! And call a few more of the over bets you see, if for no other reason, to see what others are doing. I think you will be suprised how often you are wrong about the strength of the villains hand. How can it hurt, right?

    I say this because I really do believe poker sites are rigged, especially the ones serving US players. But you and I both know, we ain't gonna do sht about it. However I can also tell you that I have become a pretty good live player. I actually won or chopped for 1st money last 3 trips to Tunica. And although my best finish in Vegas is a second, I have more than paid for 5 out of my last 7 trips playing $60 to $150 buyin tourneys, sat on about a dozen final tables. (I don't play ring/cash games) SO, I have to conclude that on line poker has improved my live play. I'm headed to Vegas this Saturday, can not wait. So sick of playing Merge.

    As for players that win on line, well if you have the br to buy in a few grand a day, can play for 16, 18 hours and more, and you have some game, you are going to be able to slip around a lot of the sht and have some big paydays. But heres the deal, and this is out there, sites like Bovada have made it clear, they don't want winners because they take too much money out. They want "net depositors" and have openly manipulated there software to accomplish this. Which is crazy because someone is going to win and take money out. Unless, huh well----- (Notice I said manipulate software not RNG, although I assume they do that too)

    If you like poker, keep a handle on what you spend, get over the "rigged" thing. Have fun busting me and Kavilla! You wont actually know it's me, I play 8 skins, you might like that as well. Sure it's rigged but until something better comes along for US players, play Merge sites. Only network with any traffic. And bty, dont go running to free sites/clubs thinking its going to be better there, it's not! They want to keep traffic (lots of bad players) too! And, its not really poker if you dont have some skin in the game.

    But, hey, I know how you feel. Your not alone! But some of us rigtards do need to get a grip. It is, what it is. And you don't really want to quit!
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