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IMO: Odds of certain things happening MUST be different on Full Tilt vs traditional dealing method because of their process

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  1. Slowta Slowta is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 10:58pm)

    Has this topic been beaten to a pulp? Is there any math behind any of the arguments from either side?
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:00pm) in reply to Slowta

    odds of getting sucked out on increase ten fold
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:01pm) in reply to Acpittboss

     
    Originally Posted by Acpittboss View Post

    odds of getting sucked out on increase ten fold

    so basically you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. got it.
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  4. mackyg12 mackyg12 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:01pm) in reply to Slowta

    Every site cheats except FTP and pokerstars.
     
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:02pm) in reply to mackyg12

     
    Originally Posted by mackyg12 View Post

    Every site cheats except FTP and pokerstars.

    Full Tilt wouldn't cheat, its dumb for them. They make money not cheating.
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:08pm) in reply to Slowta

    Do you think a live game would play any different if the dealer was sitting there shuffling the rest of the deck while waiting to deal the next card?

    If you can't honestly say "yes", and why, then this whole topic is stupid.
     
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:10pm) in reply to grapsfan

     
    Originally Posted by grapsfan View Post

    Do you think a live game would play any different if the dealer was sitting there shuffling the rest of the deck while waiting to deal the next card?

    If you can't honestly say "yes", and why, then this whole topic is stupid.

    as a mod, your whole post is stupid

     
    Originally Posted by Slowta View Post

    Is there any math behind any of the arguments from either side?

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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:26pm) in reply to Slowta

    IMO your opinion has no effect on the laws of math.
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:32pm) in reply to odstore

     
    Originally Posted by odstore View Post

    IMO your opinion has no effect on the laws of math.

    ok...show me some math on the subject.
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:35pm) in reply to Slowta

     
    Originally Posted by Slowta View Post

    ok...show me some math on the subject.

    What is there to get? The odds off selecting a specific card at random is not changed whether the deck is being continuously shuffled or not.
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:44pm) in reply to Slowta

    but ...the cards change
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    Jan 29th, 2010 (1/29/2010 11:59pm) in reply to Slowta

    lol
     
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    Jan 30th, 2010 (1/30/2010 12:04am) in reply to Slowta

    The math is simple. If there are x cards left in the deck after the flop has been dealt, then the chances of any given card being pulled from that deck is 1/x. This is true regardless of whether there is a continuous shuffle or the deck is set beforehand. Therefore, no, there is no reason why outcomes would be more or less likely to happen on FTP as opposed to any other site.

    Hope that helps!
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    Jan 30th, 2010 (1/30/2010 12:06am) in reply to Jennifear

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    The math is simple. If there are x cards left in the deck after the flop has been dealt, then the chances of any given card being pulled from that deck is 1/x. This is true regardless of whether there is a continuous shuffle or the deck is set beforehand. Therefore, no, there is no reason why outcomes would be more or less likely to happen on FTP as opposed to any other site.

    Hope that helps!

    Thanks Jennifear, you're the best.
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    Jan 30th, 2010 (1/30/2010 12:22am) in reply to Slowta

    The only difference between a continuous shuffle and a live home game, for example, is that in a live home game you can see statistically significant relationships between consecutive hands due to many home game players not shuffling well enough or enough times. However, this doesn't change the odds of any certain hand hitting. It only changes how likely you are to see cards from a prior hand again. And really, the difference is irrelevant because depending on the person shuffling, the prior hand's cards can appear more often, less often, or with the same frequency. It's something best attributed to chaos theory and ignored, because it doesn't provide any useful data.
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    Jan 30th, 2010 (1/30/2010 2:30pm) in reply to Slowta

     
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