I final table 5-6 tourneys a week on stars on average and at least 1 win a week, but on FTP I barely cash no matter what tourney I play, and its against worser players. So i'm done, if any of you can give me a good reason to keep trying I would really really appreciatte it, but until then im CONVINCED that theres something really wrong with FTP software.
The way I busted out of the 216 plo hi/lo was horrendous, i might post the HH's if this post needs it....so I'm just finishing the 22 mini-ftops and then im done for good.

 

Originally Posted by silviodante1

I final table 5-6 tourneys a week on stars on average and at least 1 win a week, but on FTP I barely cash no matter what tourney I play, and its against worser players. So i'm done, if any of you can give me a good reason to keep trying I would really really appreciatte it, but until then im CONVINCED that theres something really wrong with FTP software.
The way I busted out of the 216 plo hi/lo was horrendous, i might post the HH's if this post needs it....so I'm just finishing the 22 mini-ftops and then im done for good.

reallyer?

 

Originally Posted by quietwinner

 

Originally Posted by silviodante1

I final table 5-6 tourneys a week on stars on average and at least 1 win a week, but on FTP I barely cash no matter what tourney I play, and its against worser players. So i'm done, if any of you can give me a good reason to keep trying I would really really appreciatte it, but until then im CONVINCED that theres something really wrong with FTP software.
The way I busted out of the 216 plo hi/lo was horrendous, i might post the HH's if this post needs it....so I'm just finishing the 22 mini-ftops and then im done for good.

reallyer?

Ive played enough tourneys on both sites to make that statement, ftp players (in the games I play plo and plo8) don't have a clue to what they are doing, like I said if you want HH's I don't mind emailing ftp support for them.

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

im the complete opposite. i rape FTP but get raped by stars

me too. its all in our heads though.

 

Originally Posted by silviodante1

 

Originally Posted by quietwinner

 

Originally Posted by silviodante1

I final table 5-6 tourneys a week on stars on average and at least 1 win a week, but on FTP I barely cash no matter what tourney I play, and its against worser players. So i'm done, if any of you can give me a good reason to keep trying I would really really appreciatte it, but until then im CONVINCED that theres something really wrong with FTP software.
The way I busted out of the 216 plo hi/lo was horrendous, i might post the HH's if this post needs it....so I'm just finishing the 22 mini-ftops and then im done for good.

reallyer?

Ive played enough tourneys on both sites to make that statement, ftp players (in the games I play plo and plo8) don't have a clue to what they are doing, like I said if you want HH's I don't mind emailing ftp support for them.

Just a big LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Uh...no. Its not FTP software. Just sounds like you have better confidence on stars. Just play there if thats where you're winning if you're this upset - regardless of the reasons why.

according to OPR you have played 47 TOTAL tournaments on FTP including sngs. Dude, nice sample size.

I have ridiculously bad stats on ftp compared to what expectation says they should be, but I basically look at it this way... I have less than 400 mtts on that site and am down under 2k, with a few shots at majors that i didn't cash accounting for a good portion of that downer and running horribad at bubbles/early into cash. I keep playing because I play well enough that success will happen inevitably, and I have won at every other kind of poker and on every site. I'm not throwing in the towel after 400 mtts, and you are after the 22 you had played before today and the presumably 2 you are playing today? wow, just wow.

 

Originally Posted by quietwinner

 

Originally Posted by silviodante1

I final table 5-6 tourneys a week on stars on average and at least 1 win a week, but on FTP I barely cash no matter what tourney I play, and its against worser players. So i'm done, if any of you can give me a good reason to keep trying I would really really appreciatte it, but until then im CONVINCED that theres something really wrong with FTP software.
The way I busted out of the 216 plo hi/lo was horrendous, i might post the HH's if this post needs it....so I'm just finishing the 22 mini-ftops and then im done for good.

reallyer?

haha yeah theyre the worstest

I was asking for advice, and I'm willing to work with what you guys are telling me...whats a better amount of tourneys to play until I can make a better decision?

break even after 47 tournaments. jeez. time to get yourself a clue. considering how dillusional you are about your ftp results, i'd say you are quite fortunate to have the results you do on stars.

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

im the complete <strike>opposite</strike> same. i rape <strike>FTP</strike> stars but get raped by <strike>stars</strike> FTP

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I�ve already touched on the subject of poker room computer opponents. We know there are some software robots available to players to use on sites but how about robots used by the sites themselves? It�s entirely possible that the sites use robots to make them even more money. Now the big question that is on your mind is why would a site do this? Why would a site deliberately steal money from their players? Wouldn�t the players get tired of losing and leave the site?

That�s a great question but ask yourself this... If you were playing poker and you took some bad beats but then won some money back to even you out plus a few extra dollars, would you care? Of course not, in fact, it would keep you right where you were!

The poker room software can track players by profit. Every player is monitored and a balance is kept throughout all players. When a new player joins the site they are allowed to win against the sites robots at first. Slowly they start to lose money to the point where they have no money. If they lose everything and do not deposit the site will send them an email telling them they have free money waiting in their account to try again. The site wants them back as players. If they lose all of their money and re-deposit again the site now knows that this player ID will deposit again with little work to be done on the part of the site. The site robots have easy access to this information and allow the player to win a decent amount of money.

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