If I was the owner of a poker site I would thank all these players defending
the sites that are rigged. None of you geniouses know that its Random, you have no proof. You are all getting ripped off. Face it the cards are manipulated.

 

Originally Posted by hummer

If I was the owner of a poker site I would thank all these players defending
the sites that are rigged. None of you geniouses know that its Random, you have no proof. You are all getting ripped off. Face it the cards are manipulated.

Are you the guy who had his Aces cracked by my J-10?

Look man, you can't min-raise with 3 limpers and expect to narrow the field. By the time it came around to me I was getting 6.5:1 for my call! How am I going to lay down J-10 in that spot?

WELL WE ALL HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR MONEY WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING... THX AGAIN

You are an idiot! Sites don't care who wins, they get paid regardless. I have played for over 3 years and although I am not nearly te best, have been a consistent winner. NEVER had to rebuy into a site.
Sure, I have had some bad streaks, but seem to come out on top in the long run.
Maybe you just suck at poker.

What "proof" do you have?

None. So GTFO.

You are a liar, I bet you rebuy more than the average player. Donkey
And by the way I am a winning player on a regurlar basis at Hard Rock in
Hollywood fl. and most of the good players at the tables say that on-line is garbage. so its just not me Donkey

The excuse that I am not a winning player is incorrect I play regularly at casinos and do well. So again how can you proove that the game on-line is not rigged, when no-one is minding the store. Like its been said there are companys that have numerous regulations and have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar. You have no proof its not rigged just some stupid argument that anyone who says that is a losing player. You have to do better than that because here does not apply. So where can I go and get proof, You know where NO WHERE because they have no oversight.
No regulations. No nothing to check whats going on. No proof for you to make your argument they have you out in the cold. You cannot proove to anyone where you put your money can be trusted .

Again you are using flawed logic looking for proof that i mentioned earlier. Where is your proof that it is riggerd. Circular logic is not a valid ground for a debate. I notice that you did not address my main pts, I am intertested in your response to those. I am not using a winning/losing player as basis for my arguement, I am only stating that using the site is rigged is an excuse many use. I am not calling you losing player ora winng player just stating my opinion on why this debate comes up so frequently. Review my previous post and counter my main pts of how site benefit off "rigging" the hands/games.

they benefit by moving the game along its not in their best interest to have you sit at a trny for long times they lose money. They give action cards so players play and then they eliminate players for them to move on to another rake or another deposit.

YES IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Originally Posted by hummer

they benefit by moving the game along its not in their best interest to have you sit at a trny for long times they lose money. They give action cards so players play and then they eliminate players for them to move on to another rake or another deposit.

The fatal flaw with this argument is that it is more profitable (and ethical) for sites to run more tournaments rather than rig them to make money quickly.

Think about it, how hard is it for pokerstars or Full Tilt to run one more SNG or one more MTT? It's nothing to them. So rather than rig games to try to move tournaments faster or get people to go broke and re-deposit, it makes more sense for them to try and attract as many players as possible so they can make money by volume.

Like thereraise said, players are going to go broke no matter what. Look at how many people get paid in an MTT, only 10% of the whole field will actually make money, 90% will bust out, and it doesn't have to be rigged for that to happen, that's literally how every SNG or MTT will play out. Same thing with a cash game, there will be winners and there will be losers, there's no need to rig the cards, because that is literally what is going to happen. Why would they need to rig it when they know as long as they keep the tables full they're going to make money?

When players bust out some will re-deposit, others won't. There's very little sites can do about this.

All they need to do is try to attract and retain players, that's the most profitable strategy, and that's what they're trying to do. As long as they have a solid player base, they'll make tons of money off the rake and tourney buy-ins.

THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE MOTIVE TO RIG THE CARDS, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO DO IT!

Wut?????? What kind on analogy are you attempting with Enron?????

You arguement was that the sites are rigged and now your saying that lack of a regulation committee is the problem? The pts that are being brought up here to counter your "arguement" are valid and I beleive that you cannot logically counter these so you resort to "Lack of regualtion gives them a free hand" you give no valid pts to prove your theory so YOU FAIL.......

OP,,,,,,You sir are an idiot.

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Where is the proof that is is rigged????

Have you ever seen a 1-2 outer playing live? You have never seen set over set turn into quads? It is poker anything can happen in a single hand. I, and others, have already brought pts why there is no reason to fix hands. Also, I am almost pretty sure there is some sort of commish than governs pokerstars in the Isle on Mann and i thought FTP was governed by the kahnawake gamming commishion.....

and you cannot give any proof that it is rigged hmmmmmm...

you see what im doing here, your circular logic works well both ways...

you still only ask for proof and have yet to give any response to all the other pts people keep bringing up....