LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ this thread

You're a true patriot OP, a true patriot.

How about instead of trying to take away the last ounce of online poker we have left you find yourself a new hobby that doesn't upset you so much.

The search feature on this site should have default parameters of 'another fruit loop claiming that the sites are rigged because they keep losing'.

Post more though (quite entertaining).

I would bet you that the senator and congress peeps of your state are basically going to tell you to fuck off, but I'm sure you would consider that to be rigged too.(if you lost the bet) Your logic makes me violently ill.. You are suffering from what is known as "selective memory", and in your case it is very severe. You need to learn to put simple concepts together. For example; in online poker you are experiencing way more bad beats then you would live- this is actually 100% true. But what makes it true? You are playing a hella amount of more hands playa. More hands played=more miracle rivers seen. Also, realize the only reason your singling merge out for cheating is because its the only site your playing on. If pokerstars, ub, and ftp were still running you would obviously think one of those were extremely rigged. Sorry to come down on you so hard but get your head out of the gutter. Stop complaining about bad beats and work on your game.

 

Originally Posted by allani12

very harsh silk. cant a guy have an opinion without you bashing him shame on you handlez!

so you agree with what he is saying? What he is saying is ridiculous, of course hes going to get bashed for that. Atleast I tried to set him strait instead of just saying "lol what a fucktard"... I think I gave him the best advice he has ever gotten.

 

Originally Posted by HOUNDofHELL

First of all, Its straight.
Second, I have been 2,3,4,5 and 6 outed out of about $1500 in 2 days. So, yes I had the best hand and lost, more than the percentages would prove correct, all the all in hands I've played. Yep, your right, its not rigged. I can win small pots all day long, once the money goes in preflop, with the best I will remind you, I always lose in cash and tourneys.

I am glad there are a lot of people like you playing poker.

 

Originally Posted by ktyven

are u serious ?

Yeah, I'm serious. KQ wins less than 20% of the time aipf vs A-X or 22-JJ on merge, over a significantly large sample of thousands of aipf showdowns on the merge network. On stars, I'd be more inclined to 3b/c, or 3b to an amount that I can just open jam 100% of flops that I miss if my opponent hoods, depending on the dynamic that me and the villain have at that moment.

On merge tho, I think it would be tough to get into a spot where we have 30 bigs and we DONT cover our opponent. The stacks are so shallow deep on merge that 30bb is usually CL at this stage of the tourney.

KQ is NOT a good resteal hand on merge, idc what anyone says really, it just doesnt produce the same results that it did on FTP and stars. It simply doesn't make top pair as often as it should, and when AIPF against A-X or pairs it just doesn't get there, idk what else there is to say really. It could just be variance I guess, but I'm raping KQ as well when I'm the one with A-X or pair im like 80% vs KQ as well so its not like im complainin about runnin bad with it, I see others never win with it as well.

So basically what Im saying is that In order to play it profitably in this spot I think you have to flat and c/c some flops with the intention of donking some turns, etc... I don't think we can play it for its intrinsic value in this spot (on merge) bc it just doesnt have the equity that it should against our villain's range.

lol...r u suggesting something is up w/ the RNG at merge? poker is a game of integrity, and the operators of these sites are all 100% legit. it's not like merge luckboxed its way into a customer base because it's competitors were shut down and later discovered stealing. their customer base was built on years of transparent honest service. i mean, these sites may wipe their ass with your bankroll, allow collusion, and create super user accounts, but they would never ever fuck with the RNG. that's just dumb. sort of like cutting off the hand that feeds them. if they messed with the RNG, they would get less deposits to fund cash-outs and any ponzi would be exposed. they're not that stupid.

 

Originally Posted by kevmode

+1 KQ sucks really bad on Merge. I have been restealing less with it and also raise folding intsead of 4bet jamming it vs a 3bet more often also. I believe the RNG is different on Merge then it is on Poker stars or Full Tilt.

THE MODE HAS SPOKEN

KEVMODE SPEAKS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND IF HE THINKS THIS THEN I DO TO

haters gonna hate.

Pretty comical how often ppl seem to get dealt AA on merge.

 

Originally Posted by L Rocketz

+100 here.. Merge tilts me the fuck out, much more than any other site that I have played on in the past. If I could actually afford to move, I woulda been gone, for fucks sake

+1000 - After 7 months on Merge I am suffering from perpetual accumulated mega monkey ass tilt!!! FTP could occasionally tilt me stars rarely tilted me and only for brief periods but Merge just tilts me to log on!

I do not however think it's rigged but I have to agree KQ seems to suck on there. I guess it's possible their RNG is set differently than Stars or FTP but what do I know. I think instead of a doomswitch they have a river 'em switch, j/k.

Of course our government is so F'd up even if we get online poker legislation it will take ages and it will be some crazy over regulated mess that will take another year to just get straightened out. Did anyone see the Medicare Prescription Plan - I think that's a good indication of the mess that can come out of Washington. But let us hope for a miracle one time that they can actually get something right!

I'm not sure if anyone will be playing on Merge once online poker becomes legal. Not many ppl seem to be feeling that site for numerous reasons, running bad included...

I'm certainly not a great player, hell I might actually suck and I definitely make my share of dumb mistakes but I can't win a flip on Merge lately to save my life. I did fine on stars, probably more due to some serious rungood than play good and I could occasionally win on FTP but I didn't play there much (thank God) but I've never run as bad overall as I have on Merge. I've had one winning month out of seven. On Stars from Jan 2010 to April 15 I had 3 losing months and they were only slightly in the red. Thinking it's rigged is just dumb, actually there is no merit in a poker site rigging their RNG but something is just different.

Unfortunately I choose to continue to play. I've worked too hard on my game for too long to just give up and lose too much ground. Merge is the best there is for US players but I do think I'm going to play some on Bodog or Cake just for a break from the Merge tilt.

 

Originally Posted by OU_dlanger610

Pick any site (X), google it as "X is rigged"...there is someone who has a theory about how fixed the cards are. Generally players tend to feel the sites that are the least fixed are those they run the best on. Where are all the threads saying "Man, I run way too good on this site for it to be legitimate." Overall, people just hate the thought of when they run bad and the hands aren't being dealt by a human being.

In a game where there are so many combinations of outcomes it's easy to go through stretches on one site that lead to make you think it is "rigged". In the end until you produce %'s that deviate an extreme amount from the mean over a sample size that approaches infinity, I don't buy these claims.

Keep grinding friends.

Very well said and very true! I meant to say before to the guy with the 3500 hand sample size - 3500 hands is absolutely nothing. Even 10,000 hands is nothing. It's common to occasionally run bad for 10,000 hands and as many as 1000 games sometimes. Variance is a real bitch but it's part of poker and if we play we have to learn to live with it.

One thing I always see in it's rigged posts is how good the guy thinks he is. Egos are huge in poker and when you lose it always has to be someone or something else's fault when in reality you probably aren't anywhere near as good as you think you are and most of your losses are due to your mistakes or bad play.

When I say something is different it's with the games, the structure or the opponents or all of the above not with the RNG.

Also on stars, even though I played almost every day and played enough for gold star status and regularly played the 45s and 180s I doubt many other players considered me a reg. I didn't run into the same people that often even in those games and slight schedule adjustments could fix it if I started to. Games went off so fast that if one set of games was full of regs you could just wait on the next set. In MTTs I rarely ran into the same people even late game. On Merge we're playing the same people in the same games every day. We learn each others tendencies and ranges and it's impossible to avoid each other or game select in any way. So while a lot of beats my seem like run bad many are just because you can away with so much less against people who know your game way too well.

I also think even the Merge fish are worse than the Stars and FTP fish so this contributes to the problem as well.