Originally Posted by supra1988t

I cant believe i have to spell this shit out for you but here you go. I blocked names because I dont know if these guys want there stats posted up for the world to see. SS is very accurate when it comes to freezouts but not with rebuys. Rocket science.

Edit: FTR, Im the player with the lowest abi and most volume in ss above. Withered, I know.

+ we can see the stars and that the search was for merge.

so obv these players are lb players for merge

This topic does not seem related to the ticket accounts. If there is a direct link to the ticket accounts, Wacky or I will merge it back into the main thread.

Feel free to continue the discussion.

 

Originally Posted by supra1988t

I cant believe i have to spell this shit out for you but here you go. I blocked names because I dont know if these guys want there stats posted up for the world to see. SS is very accurate when it comes to freezouts but not with rebuys. Rocket science.

thanks for inadvertently backing me up.....funny how much rocket science is involved with Sharkscope when Tyson and others dont agree with what i have to say.

Also, KTX, you've made this about me. I was asking you to explain how a comment you made was relevant to the old thread. I wasn't derailing -- I was attempting to link. Now it's a separate topic, so I can't derail.

 

Originally Posted by tyson219

Also, KTX, you've made this about me. I was asking you to explain how a comment you made was relevant to the old thread. I wasn't derailing -- I was attempting to link. Now it's a separate topic, so I can't derail.

i made this about you because from the beginning of this thread, MONTHS AGO, you have done nothing but try to bury these issues.
good job bro, clearly you are doing your normal moderator dutie here and nothing more.

...you really think nobody is going to figure out whats going on if you move my posts and censor me? or maybe if you allow people to insult me and attack me enough they will just ignore what i have to say altogether?? how many months have you tried to bury the ticket account issue and look whats happened? how much more equity was stolen from the MTT community because YOU PERSONALLY felt nothing wrong was going on??

you need to stop commenting on anything and everything Merge before you completely destroy your reputation. its already taken a serious hit in this thread when you get shown up time and time again by a losing rigtard like me. i mean clearly you are much more intelligent than me or anyone else, so dont you find it strange that you've somehow managed to miss all these issues surrounding Merge??
seems mighty strange that you are so intelligent but have all these lapses with things like simple backing mathematics, sharkscope, etc but only when it involves merge

arrogance at its finest, i mean how stupid do you think everyone else really is?

how many times have i tried to address the issue of being able to multi account from the same IP and you've deleted my posts?

the thread has grown into something much bigger than sharing ticketed accounts....even the Hero CEO addressed other concerns in that thread...did you move his posts??

and i'm not sure im following your logic about the ticket accts being losing accounts....if you read the last several pages of that thread, you will see i posted proof of another issue ive been talking about for months now, which is people entering with 4 or 5 acccounts into the same tournaments....at the same time. i'm sure people arent risking a perma ban on the network just to have extra entries into the tourney....obviously this stuff is a serious issue....and thats the reason i pointed out the lack of winners in freezeouts.

i suspect this is caused by widescale cheating like i described above. it makes sense, because if you look over sharkscope you will see just a handful of players are winning in the small freezeouts, even very good players cant beat the games yet they CRUSH rebuys and the same stakes/games when it suddenly has a large(r) field over 180+ entrants??
look for yourself, check out many different players results in freezeouts etc.

im just fed up with this. i'm tired of not being able to discuss this properly...ive been ranting about these issues for MONTHS and getting no where because of shit like this.

MERGE DOES NOT CARE ENOUGH TO POLICE THEIR GAMES! ITS UP TO US ON P5s WITH 2+2 BEING DOWN.

LET US PROPERLY DISCUSS THIS SHIT, TYSON NEEDS TO GTFO IF HE CANT BE NEUTRAL AND IF HE CONTINUES THIS SHIT I'M NOT GONNA PULL ANYMORE PUNCHES.

you also posted this gem, and many others around the same time:

 

Pretty harsh Kev. I have to disagree. I don't think the players are doing anything wrong. They were offered a good deal and accepted it. I would probably consider doing the same thing.

just one instance of you downplaying the issue.
i'm not gonna argue with you again because thats exactly what you want.
....to get into some meaningless dispute so you can ignore the real questions being raised. like focusing on whether sharkscope accurately records rebuy tourneys in a discussion about freezeout results.

so you want to keep playing games Tyson? or you going to let us have a real discussion? i urge anyone who thinks i'm being harsh or rude to Tyson to check out his entire collection of posts from the thread he just linked above....search for Tyson219 in that thread and just start from the beginning...you may have a hard time respecting him afterwards, but at least you can see whats really going on here. the tide is turning against people like you who just continue to blindly defend Merge while they screw over the rest of their players.

keep it up, eventually its gonna be just you, and a bunch of ticket accounts at each table...or maybe

 

Originally Posted by tyson219

This got off topic. Let's revert back to the issue.

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I don't see evidence of good players losing at freezeouts. Supra's post confirmed my view of the situation. Please provide a screenshot (feel free to hide names) and let us know where to look.

not sure about tournaments and i block myself from sharkscope but merge isn't tracked very well.

have looked at ptr for the account i played a lot of 1/2 nl and hu on and there is nothing there about it except the first 40ish hands of a few random sessions.

kavilla you do realize larger tournament fields with equal buyins to smaller field tournies have more money in the prize pool right? oh and shark scope isn't accurate in rebuy calculations.

I liked the part where supra posted clear evidence to the contrary of the initial statement made by kavilla then he quotes him saying he inadvertantly proved his point. I just don't get this guy man, has to be a level account? If you're gonna look at 90-180 person fields on merge, there's only gonna be a few consistent winners because there are only a few winning players. You mash heaps of buttons creating your TLDR posts, but they never form any rationally thougth out points. It was fun to poke at in the beginning now it's just exhausting.

If the point of this thread is that there aren't people beating freezeouts. You're wrong.
If it's that people aren't beating small field freezeouts, you're also wrong, there's just not many.
If it's that you need to seek out medication and or may need psychiatric attention, you're right.

Sigh. I feel bad for you. Because in my heart, I really believe you think people understand what you're saying. We don't. I don't see people losing at FOs. I don't see how that's a sign of collusion. If everyone is losing, then the colluders must be winning -- so if that's true, who are they?

To respond in part to some of your other stuff:

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

you guys try so fkn hard to dismiss anything and everything negative about Merge, sheesh i wonder why??
do you really think anyone objective even listens to what you guys have to say anymore???

Actually, I don't think anyone listens to you. FWIW, I was against account sharing/multi accounting way before you ever said anything. As were a number of other people.

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

and you should quote this now, because I know all of you will be singing a very different tune here shortly....you're just waiting to see if someone with more clout in the community figures it out and steps forward first.

About people losing in freezeouts? I will put forth a large wager that nobody will come forward and speak out against or provide evidence of people losing in freezeouts.

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

ive made a concerted choice to avoid posting half-assed evidence in these threads. so you will just have to wait if you want me to show you the "proof", but i will say this much...
I know a lot more than I'm saying in these threads.

No you don't. If you had any evidence, you would post it. A bunch of people looked at sharkscope and found nothing. I saw 1 losing reg at FOs and 9-10 winners. If there was evidence, you would post a list of the 10-15 names to look at. But there isn't. And if you're holding back evidence, you're the nut low of everyone. Because holding back evidence makes it so that nothing can happen.

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

and if you want to play these stupid games and continue to portray me as some crazy rigtard with zero basis for my comments and "accusations" thats fine.
....because enough people are beginning to see through the bullshit. the way you guys have handled the issues in the ticket acct thread is not helping much either...

Right...because asking for evidence about account sharing rather than endless speculation was handling it poorly? Your bat shit crazy non sensical posts can't be understood by anyone. When evidence was FINALLY provided, the Hero CEO went to Merge and got a response. Evidence ---> Results. Speculation ---> Nothing.

tyson read my post above because ive answered everything.

i'm done playing games with you and your boys.
you can keep trying to derail the threads and make it about ME or whoever else you think is an easy target and yet you never actually address anything....thats your choice and the more you do it, the more people can see the real Tyson.

i promise, the very second someone you cant discredit so easily comes forward with these very same accusations, you will suddenly change your tune and do a 180.

i do not respect you at all and I think you are just part of the problem. You are the type of person that represents everything WRONG with poker industry. i'm sure i'll have this edited by you or another mod yet you will allow any number your insulting posts and comments to stay as well as those posts made by your friends.

the only thing you care about is you and your horses make a profit on the site. your selfish and you are arrogant and when the truth comes out, you will be known for what you really are by the rest of the community.

and i think its a shame that P5s allows a moderator to post the shit you've posted(even if you ninja edit the post after an hour), and that they allow someone to dictate and control the discussions of threads like these when you have such a personal investment in the general well being of Merge network.

you crossed the line months ago when you tried to dismiss the ticket acct discussion on numerous occasions and I will not back down, so either help us fix the site or gtfo the way nobody even respects you anymore after you keep trying to sweep this shit under the rug so yeah keep it up, ride your Merge ship until it sinks like a stone.

Stop going off on tangents. This is about PEOPLE NOT WINNING AT FREEZEOUTS.

Every time I post something, you take my words, spin them around and go in the other direction. Why? I think it's because you have no proof.

SHOW ME THE MONEY KAVEH. SHOW ME THE MONEY. (And by that, I mean show who's losing the money).

 

Originally Posted by ktx49

i spent months checking this kind of stuff

fyp