<H4 align=center><SPAN> </SPAN></H4> <H2><SPAN>Online Poker Precautions</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>
Not too long ago the poker community was upset with a tragic finding over at Absolute Poker. It was reported and proven that Absolute Poker had internal cheating present.
For some, this information proved their claims that online poker was in fact rigged. Let's be honest with ourselves for a moment. Online poker is a huge industry with millions of dollars floating around the globe. Operators of poker rooms are in it for the money and some will take their greed to great lengths. It is entirely possible to cheat online and in fact I can guarantee at one time or another you too were likely cheated. This should not stop you from playing online but instead make you wiser with your deposits and bankroll.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN> <H2><SPAN>Before We Get Started</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>This is a virtual “How They Do It” guide both relating to players and the big name poker room giants. Before you start reading the information contained herein please understand that all descriptions, details and written text have been derived from real live playing experiences on a variety of poker rooms. Some of the topics may seem like one huge conspiracy theory. Other parts of this text may seem like a disgruntled poker player on tilt. This is in the eyes of the beholder. </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN><SPAN>Physical Locations of Online Poker Rooms
Online Poker Rooms are Virtual Poker Rooms where you can easily logon from your computer and play poker online. “Where” is the keyword that most players often overlook by not putting much thought into the actual location of the poker room. It’s hard to believe people can trust keeping their money in a place they have only come to know as a desktop icon.
For most online poker rooms the “where” is not a desktop icon, instead it is “offshore” destinations. These offshore areas allow the poker rooms to run operations that may not be legal in major areas like the good old </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. Operating in these areas also gives the poker rooms the opportunity to run a semi-regulated business. They also are protected majorly -- since their customers (poker players) are not doing business with a company in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. God only knows how you would be able to bring them to court if this was ever necessary. I know some of you will disagree with it being non regulated or semi-regulated but let’s just save that argument for when we get to the next article.
Take for example the well known poker room “Poker Stars”. If you do a WHOIS lookup on their web site name, you will find the computers that host their site and gaming software are located in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United Kingdom</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> (as of 2009). In 2007 however, their servers were in </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>Costa Rica</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>Note: For those of you that do not know what “WHOIS” is all about, it’s simple. WHOIS is a service that will give you detailed information on the owner of a web site name. You simply type in the web site name and WHOIS will tell you Who It Is.
As you can see from the above link, the main computers for “Poker Stars” are currently in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>UK</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. In 2007 and some of 2008, they were in </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>Costa Rica</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. The following is the exact info taken from WHOIS on </SPAN><SPAN>August 23, 2007</SPAN><SPAN>.
IP Address: 220.127.116.11
(ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: CR(COSTA RICA)
If you were to lookup the IP Address at that time you will see that it is based on Mohawk Internet Technologies and Poker Stars is owned by “Rational Enterprises”.
Mohawk Internet Technologies MIT-BLK-01 (NET-66-212-224-0-1)
18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124</SPAN><SPAN>
Rational Enterprises MIT-PSTAR-02 (NET-66-212-225-16-1)
126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52
A quick lookup in Google shows us that Poker Stars is located at this address.
</SPAN><SPAN>Plaza</SPAN> <SPAN>Roble</SPAN> <SPAN>Corporate</SPAN> <SPAN>Center</SPAN> <SPAN>San Jose</SPAN> <st1:country-region><SPAN>Costa Rica</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>
This is just one example and by no means am I singling out Poker Stars. Many main-stream poker room computers are located in areas like </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>Costa Rica</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. The actual administrative address may be in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United Kingdom</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> due to the fact that obtaining a license in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>UK</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> has become much easier. Currently it looks as though many poker rooms have moved to the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United Kingdom</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>.
So what does this have to do with anything?</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN> <H2><SPAN>
Poker Gaming Commissions</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>I’m sure you’ve seen gaming commission logos and all other types of mini banners at the bottom of poker room web sites. These companies and commissions have been setup to supposedly keep a watchful eye on the poker room(s) and how the rooms are operated.
I want to start first with the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. They refer to themselves as, “Oversight body of Canadian Mohawk tribe offering regulatory and ISP services to online gambling businesses”. These “Mohawk Tribes” have been given the power to pretty much do whatever they’d like (within reason) on their land.
They provide gaming licenses to any entity seeking to start up a poker room as long as you meet three very simple standards. Here are their three golden rules that all poker rooms must abide by.
1. Only suitable persons and entities are permitted to operate within Kahnawake;
2. That the games offered are fair to the player; and
3. That winners are paid.
Seems easy enough but that’s all there is to being a licensed poker room. This tribe will let you operate within their jurisdiction as long as you are a suitable entity. But how do they determine who is suitable and who is not? On their site they state that they check National Fraud and the buck stops there. For a commission that has a lot of power they have very vague rules for operations that will be dealing with millions of gambling dollars per day, don’t you think?
If you dig deeper you will see that the Kahnawake Gaming Commission is pretty much the top commission for a very large percentage of poker rooms and poker networks. It makes you wonder if the same people are behind a few poker rooms -- the only difference being the poker room name and look of the software.
This far we have learned that these online poker rooms operate in offshore areas, they are commissioned by “Indian Tribes” with a very vague set of rules. The commission supplies no way of actually being able to research any of their policies because their law gives them powers beyond belief.
Since these commissions are all protected under their own laws and privileged rights we are left to accept and believe everything they say. That fact alone makes it believable and possible that the upcoming text can very well be true.
We’ve gotten the commissions out of the way now I’ll touch on the companies that “test” the poker software for fairness. These companies will evaluate all aspects of the software and will give it a golden seal of approval saying it has passed all tests and is perfectly acceptable to use for real money wagers. The companies that “test” the software are usually very well known companies with an outstanding reputation. However, because the companies that certify the software are respected doesn’t mean that the poker rooms themselves are as reputable and trustworthy. What I am getting at is the fact that it is entirely possible that poker rooms have their software evaluated, and then after evaluation, change their software entirely to function a completely different way. There is no way to verify or debunk this so it is left as entirely plausible.
A quick recap will show us some very interesting points. The online poker rooms operate in offshore territories, they are regulated by Indian Tribes and recently some of these sites have been banned in areas in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>.</SPAN> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN>Shady Poker Room Deposits</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>Let me ask you something... what method of deposit do you use if you have ever deposited at an online poker room? You may have used ePassporte, Phone Cards, Credit Card Direct Payment or a host of other options. You see, if you use a credit card directly through most sites that accept </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> players the card will be declined if you are from the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. However, BoDog, Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker and many others will accept a United States based credit card by using fake companies and bull sh$t merchant accounts created for these fake companies.
Take a look at your credit card statement or bank statement if you are in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.A.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> and have used a credit card directly on your poker room. You’ll definitely see some weird company names all made out to look like some sort of educational software company or a digital VoIP phone service provider, possibly even a phone calling card company. The company names change all the time and these poker rooms use crooked tactics to accept funds from </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> players even when the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> is trying to fully ban online poker. That whole topic of poker banned in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> is up for debate at a later time but that’s not what I’m questioning. I’m questioning why a poker room that is so reputable and so trustworthy would go to the extent of creating fake companies and then accepting payments through these fake companies through their poker room cashier.
That is just way too shady for any company that claims to be a trustworthy source. This should really open your eyes and make you think some more. Do we even know who we are dealing with? No, we don’t. That is a very scary thought in this time of terrorism and major time of war. Are we funding a major terrorist network? Are we empowering the wrong types of people? We don’t know for sure and what’s crazier is that millions of poker enthusiasts will continue to fund these unknown entities.
Any poker room that wanted to be looked at as trustworthy would only accept payments from areas where gaming is 100% legal and would not go to these great lengths to accept payments. This is more evidence that supports the fact that losing American players hurt the poker room business even though they still had the rest of the world to target. It also proves that the money they make is never enough. These poker rooms want more, more, more and will go to any length to get what they want. What they want is your hard earned money.
Even sites like Poker Stars use dirty tactics to accept funds from players in the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.A.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> One way was by introducing a company a while back called PayTru Card. PayTru is supposed to be a service that provides you with a prepaid credit card so you can make purchases with this PayTru account and not have your main bank card numbers all over the Internet. A standard reloadable pre-paid credit card. What it is in reality is a way for U.S. players to deposit funds on this prepaid card and then use that card to deposit real money into Poker Stars. Your </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>U.S.</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN> debit card or credit card would work with no problems when purchasing PayTru credits because it comes up as a non gambling company. What makes it seem even more crooked is the fact that Poker Stars only advertises this company. The only way you were able to start a Pay Tru account is from Poker Stars cashier. If you go to the PayTru web site you cannot create an account for normal use and was limited to poker players only. It looks like the PayTru service won’t make suitable amounts of money if the PayTru account is not used to fund gambling. This is just another reason that makes it harder to believe that poker rooms are not rigging their software to drain us dry.
Other poker rooms like party poker used to have these “Phone Card” companies and probably still do. The trick here was you would buy a phone card from some unknown fly by night company. It just so happened that the poker rooms accepted your phone card minutes as a form of deposit! These types of loopholes should make you wonder about this whole online poker room world. They do not care about the laws of your country and they have no respect for the </SPAN><st1:country-region><SPAN>United States</SPAN></st1:country-region><SPAN>. The poker rooms go out of their way to take your money and they don’t care what they have to do to get it. What’s stopping them from going out of their way to program their poker software to drain you dry? We’ll find out in the next article.
</SPAN> <H2><SPAN>Basics of Poker Room Software</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>Poker room software is just like any other piece of software you may have used. It’s a sophisticated computerized interface that provides a visual and audible gaming experience as well as an area to generate virtual decks of cards.
Poker software is based on computer code and because of this the cards you are dealt originate from computer programs. There are no real decks of cards anywhere to be found and all of the results are generated by computer code and can be easily manipulated.
The main area of the poker software that is responsible for producing the cards is called the Random Number Generator or RNG for short. The RNG uses many different methods for picking the cards that will be dealt. The RNG function is the most important part of the poker room software. If there was no RNG then it would be equivalent to having no deck of cards in a real life situation.
In the main article of "Poker Exposed", I wrote about companies who are responsible for testing the poker room software. These companies are also hired to see if the RNG is up to fair gaming standards. They make sure that the RNG is producing truly random cards and give it the golden seal of approval. But is a computer truly capable of producing shuffles and deals just like a physical deck? The short answer is yes but the long answer is No. This topic can be debated for years and really my intentions are not to argue over natural events and computers. However it is my view and personal belief that a computer is not capable of producing results just as a physical deck of cards would be dealt. Computers these days use fancy hardware that provides methods of listening to the environment around them and in theory provides a truly random result. The fact still remains that computers are not human. Computers are very unnatural and will always be this way. They have no emotions and they always have to follow programming code and rules. The idea that a computer is capable of producing results just like a physically shuffled deck of cards is like saying a computer is capable of acting human. You may be able to program a computer to have a limited conversation of some sort but it will all be pre-determined and planned out. This is just like the RNG of poker rooms. The poker room may be able to use some sort of Truly Random event to add into their deck shuffling equation but in the end there are still rules to follow. When you pick up a deck of cards and shuffle them is there someone standing next to you telling you which card to place on top and which card should slide randomly in the stack somewhere? Of course there isn’t. When you shuffle a deck you pick it up and whatever happens was meant to be.
You know it always amazed me why poker rooms do not use a live deck of cards. Of course it would be too time consuming, they would need hundreds of dealers and they’d also need camera feeds to visually send the card data to your computer. I guess that would take a big bite out of their million dollar days. But why not set it up so everyone knows the game is completely fair?
</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>The fact that these poker rooms practice dirty tricks to get money into their sites makes you wonder what other practices they enjoy. What is stopping them from doing a lot more than just starting companies to loophole U.S. dollars into their bank accounts? I’ve heard this hundreds of times in different forums and online posting areas and it sickens me when people reply with the following statement:
“Why would poker rooms do such a thing? They have too much to lose. If they rigged their software they would lose customers and lose their reputation. They are already making millions from the rake.”</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>Poker rooms and the people behind them are money hungry. They want to make as much money as they can while they can.
My reply to all of the people who believe the above statement:
who’s going to find out?!
Seriously, who is ever going to find out that a poker room rigs their site? (Besides the Absolute Poker scandal! That's right, a poker site already rigged their games with inside RNG information!) Oh, you think the company that evaluates their software that makes a few million from looking at source code is going to say anything? How about the Indian Tribes that "regulate" the poker rooms? I guess they’re really going to expose the poker rooms that are bringing them in hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So let me ask you the same question. If you were making millions of dollars and had the chance to make double or more without anyone knowing anything would you do it? If you say no you’re lying through your teeth!
Now that we’re on this topic of poker rooms being rigged and cheating their players I’m going to go over in depth how it would be possible. This whole plan that I have outlined for you coming up is purely genius. It’s a simple plan and is entirely possible. Actually it is a lot easier than you would imagine. Nothing I am about to present to you is far fetched. Continue to read if you want to learn how to start a billion dollar empire and make it seem like you are the most trustworthy company on earth. BTW: If you actually try this... you are scum!
</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN> <H2><SPAN>Are Poker Rooms Stealing?</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>If you have a good programmer, an offshore computer server and you seem genuine, you too can have your own billion dollar poker empire. This is not meant to be a joke of any kind. This is seriously how it can be done and possibly how it was already done by many poker rooms!
First you will need to build software for Internet users to be able to play poker. Get your offshore computer server and setup your web site. This will obviously take some money but not as much as you think. If you were a knowledgeable programmer you would be able to make a poker room that specialized in just Texas Hold Em to start with. If you wanted to go all out you could add in all other versions as well. You would then program the software in your favor by adding in computer players that worked for you. These computer players would be the equivalent to playing a computer in chess. The only difference is that these computer opponents play Hold Em against your real live players who in turn think these robots are other human players.
If you have enough money at the start of this project to bribe big name poker players to join your crew you would have an instant one up on other sites. You can splash these poker pros faces all over your poker software to make it look even more genuine. “Play with the Pros and get in on the action!” could be your slogan.
You would instantly attract a ton of players and your poker room would be off to a great start. But what if you don’t have a lot of startup money? How do you get players?
</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>Ho</SPAN><SPAN>w To Get Players To Your Site</SPAN><SPAN>
Getting players to your site at first would be quite easy. Remember when I said you could easily implement computer opponents into your software? This would give the illusion that your site had tons of players. Visitors to the site would see “90,000 players online right now” and would be instantly interested in getting in on the action. Now that you have these computer players playing against each other you can attract new players by having it appear like it’s the next hot spot poker room.
To get even more people to join you can offer bonuses and instant cash rewards for joining. For the visitors that download and start a play account you can give these players better cards and actually set them up to win more hands. This will surely make them think they are a good player and deposit their first round of real money.
</SPAN> <SPAN>Online Poker Is a Huge Ponzi Scheme That Works!</SPAN><SPAN>
The poker room can afford to give out crazy bonuses with very little restrictions at first. The way to do it is easy and is a form of a Ponzi scheme. If you do not know what a ponzi scheme is I’ll quickly explain. Ponzi refers to Charles Ponzi who came up with an idea to take money from people and offer them a very high interest return. For example if he took $100 from you he would give you back $150 in a few days. The way he did this was by using new deposits to pay for old debts. Let’s say Fred gave Charles $100. The next day Sarah gave Charles $100. Charles would take $50 from Sarah’s money and give Fred his original $100 plus the $50 from Sarah. Sarah would be paid after two more people gave Charles some money. Charles would skim some money off the top for himself and keep the cycle going. Eventually he couldn’t find enough people to give him more money and of course could not keep it going. It crumbled obviously due to the fact that there was no extra money coming in to make up for the losses and he faced a terrible legal outcome.
You see, online poker is the same way. Poker rooms can take in deposits from players, give them crazy bonuses and actually be able to pay them. This is how new poker rooms most likely operate to get off the ground. This is just showing that it is entirely possible that they do this type of thing. Where is the extra money coming from to even them out in the long run? From the rake! But how is it like a ponzi? Most poker rooms state that you can only withdraw funds 48 hours after your last deposit. This buys them more time to make back money from the rake.
If you think about it they have a whole lot of money and can make it back eventually from the rake. The only way to disprove this would be to have every player on the site make a withdrawal at the same time and stop playing all together. See how long it takes them to process all of the requests!</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN>Poker Room Robots</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>I’ve already touched on the subject of poker room computer opponents. We know there are some software robots available to players to use on sites but how about robots used by the sites themselves? It’s entirely possible that the sites use robots to make them even more money. Now the big question that is on your mind is why would a site do this? Why would a site deliberately steal money from their players? Wouldn’t the players get tired of losing and leave the site?
That’s a great question but ask yourself this... If you were playing poker and you took some bad beats but then won some money back to even you out plus a few extra dollars, would you care? Of course not, in fact, it would keep you right where you were!
The poker room software can track players by profit. Every player is monitored and a balance is kept throughout all players. When a new player joins the site they are allowed to win against the sites robots at first. Slowly they start to lose money to the point where they have no money. If they lose everything and do not deposit the site will send them an email telling them they have free money waiting in their account to try again. The site wants them back as players. If they lose all of their money and re-deposit again the site now knows that this player ID will deposit again with little work to be done on the part of the site. The site robots have easy access to this information and allow the player to win a decent amount of money.
This makes the player think it is very possible to make money on the site. The robots track the player statistically and test what limits are being played and how much is being wagered. The robots then rate the player to know how much they can take from the player without losing them. For the players who continually deposit money and lose it and then instantly put more money in the account, the robots keep draining these people. These are the people who are all over the Internet losing money daily and being completely ruined. These are the people who are raising or calling an All-In with AA and losing to 49 full house. These are the people who have played great starting hands with no luck and have played garbage hands with no luck. They have no idea what to play anymore or how to proceed. All they know is that they want to win their money back but it is impossible without the proper software or strategies.
The players who are a flight risk that do not deposit much and play lower limits are kept around and untouched. They are even allowed to win more hands than usual. The site allows them this freedom so they stick around. These players are needed to keep the rake fed at all times and also praise the site when others complain. So why would people stay on the site if they continue to lose over and over again? It’s called human nature and one of the worst human traits is not knowing when to quit while gambling. It is programmed as greed in all human beings, some are more controlled by it and others are able to stop. These humans that are controlled by greed are the ones that will keep depositing until they are broke. Even if they lose time and time again they will keep coming back. If they don’t come back for a while the next time they do come back they are allowed to win to restore their faith. After that initial win they are continually drained time and time again and the cycle starts all over.
Is this how it really works? That is for you to decide but all of this is possible and actually not hard to keep track of at all. If you have ever visited some of the poker tracking web sites online, you can enter in a player id and the site will tell you the stats of that player. It will even label them as a fish or a shark. If simple web sites are able to do this I would think a billion dollar operation does the same thing only on a higher level.
</SPAN><SPAN>The players are controlled by both the RNG and the site robots. The RNG will deal them complete garbage if they are to lose to keep the cycle even. If there are no robots on the table the RNG will also be in charge of picking the winner each time. Remember, the RNG can put more luck in favor of those who do not deposit a lot because they know the mass depositors will be back again to keep the rake crowd happy.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
If you have taken a break from online poker and then returned do you notice you win more? Some would say that the time off gave you a better picture of the game and you were playing wiser. However, next time you do this, you’ll see if you call with complete garbage you’ll be flopping straights, flushes and full houses. Your pocket aces will turn into four of a kind aces and your pocket twos will make trips on the flop to kill your opponents pocket aces. Three people at the table will have a pocket pair and your hand will miraculously make trips again. Try it out and I guarantee you will be amazed. Just watch out because after you win a few extra bucks you’re new found luck will turn into bad news fast even if you are playing only top rated hands. Your pocket pairs will be long gone and you’ll be dealt 38o for eternity.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN> <H2><SPAN>
Online Poker Collusion</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>I’m sure you’ve heard about collusion between players before. Collusion is a simple concept that is made up of a group of two or more players that are all working together at a table. These players will communicate by phone or instant messaging services on the Internet while they play poker. They communicate their cards to each other and do things like raise and re-raise to muscle other players out of hands. If one of them has the best hand possible for the current hand they all stay in building up the pot size. In the end the losing players in the collusion ring really did not lose anything at all since they are working together to drain the other players at the table.
This concept has been around since online poker came about but is it really happening? I can honestly say yes because I personally knew people who have done this in the past. Were they successful? Yes, very successful.</SPAN> <H2><SPAN>
Random Number Generation for Poker Explained</SPAN></H2> <H2><SPAN> </SPAN></H2><SPAN>Online Poker Software programs do not use real decks of cards. The cards that appear on your screen were computer generated in a similar fashion to Video Poker machines in your local casino. There are hundreds of methods that can be used to generate computerized decks of cards. In this article you will learn the basics of randomly generated card decks as well as the 2 main ways these decks are incorporated for use with Poker Room Software.
</SPAN> <SPAN>Electronic Card Generation / RNG (Random </SPAN><SPAN>Number Generation)
</SPAN><SPAN>Random number generation on a computer platform is accomplished by using two components. The first component is usually a piece of data that is always changing (examples: the current system time or date). Because the time and date change every second, there is always a new number format. The second component to any RNG is the algorithm or the "instructions" of how to manipulate the first component. In a basic example for creating a simple random number, an RNG would request the computer systems current time and date and then perform various math operations on that number. The outcome of this process would result in a random number. You can also specify the length of the number as well as creating multiple random numbers that do not repeat.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>This process can be used to create a list of 52 random numbers (there are 52 cards in a standard deck of cards). Each number would represent a different card. For example, the number 8 can be the Ace of Spades, 9 being the Jack of Clubs. Whoever is in charge of programming the RNG would be responsible for linking it all together and determining values that would relate to card values.
As you can see in this very basic explanation of Random Number Generation, the outcome is partially pre-planned by the programmers. The time in this instance may always be changing but the actual outcome is determined by the instructions written by the programmer(s).
Methods for RNG Used By Poker Rooms
</SPAN><SPAN>Poker Rooms do not use system time as their first component. Instead they use sophisticated computer components that generate random data. There are many different computer chips that create random numbers based on environment temperature and noise picked up from microphones. The idea behind this is if you took the noise recorded from a microphone in a non-silent room, the noise or data would always be changing. In theory this should provide a completely random result. However, this is only the 1st component of the RNG process. The second component, which is actually manipulating this information, will always be based on the instructions that the computer programmers designed to handle this random first component. As you can see there are thousands of ways to produce the first component of any RNG. How that data is then used to come to results is the downfall of the end result.
Incorporating Data For Use With a Poker Room RNG
So far we have learned that Poker Rooms need to create card values electronically. There are 2 main ways a poker room will incorporate card values into their software. The first method is to create one huge list of possible decks of cards. Each line of their card value computer file will contain pre-determined values to be dealt to each seat at a poker table as well as the cards to be displayed for the community cards.
One entry in their file would look similar to this:
HAND#9000000 S1:Ad6s S2:Kc2c S3:9h4d S4:Td8c S5:2s7h S6:QsTs S7:7c3c S8:6h5s S9:JdTc S10:9c3d C:5h2hJh3sKc
HAND# is the Hand Number ID (displayed on your poker room software)
S is the Seat # (The card values will be dealt to the player in that seat)
C is the Community Card Values
If there are no players in the seat number it will throw that data away. When it comes time for the flop, turn and river, values from the area marked C: will be displayed. This method is commonly used by poker rooms and each hand of cards that is dealt is labeled with a Hand Number. Each hand number would be linked to a specific line of card information. Remember, the card information was generated some time ago and means that all hands are pre-determined based on your seat number!</SPAN><SPAN>I'm sure you have been at an online poker table and it seems as though one person keeps winning every single hand. This may go on for a streak of up to 7 or 8 hands in a row. This happens when the RNG's first component was very similar for a span of up to one minute. As the RNG was collecting data for processing in the RNG, the data was so similar that it created multiple hands with similar card values for a single players seat as well as the community. An example of this would be let's say SEAT 5 being dealt As Th and the community would hold an Ace and a Queen. The next hand that is dealt to SEAT 5 would be let's say Ts 9d and the community would include a Ten and a 9.
There are a number of other events that can occur like being dealt the same pocket cards twice in a row and the community flops the same cards as the last hand. This is due to the RNG's 1st component having identical or very similar data in a short span of time. Of course, there are hundreds of tables using the RNG data for card values so your table may be on Hand # 190 and the next hand is then Hand # 231. The fact that you are not in direct sequence with the RNG does not matter if the RNG had a span of time with near identical data.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
The other method that poker rooms use is on-the-fly card value creation. They do not store a large list of card values. They have one computer server dedicated to handling card creation. The card values are created and store for the hand pre-flop. Both methods are truly unreliable and in my opinion should not be used. The only real way to avoid problems is by using a real deck of cards shuffled by a human dealer.
Be smart with your money.</SPAN><SPAN>
Deposit very small amounts and only play limits that you are comfortable with.
Make a weekly withdrawal schedule and follow it.
If you've found a good strategy and are consistently winning you should think: withdrawal. Safeguard your winnings and start all over again. Falling into the trap of higher limits will wipe you clean.
It's important that you keep these key elements in mind when playing online poker. They will help you stay safe and will keep your bankroll secure at all times.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN>
I actually read the whole thing (F my dogs for waking me up so early on a Sunday morning)....
It's, um...terrible. The assumption that a company is disreputable and has no oversight just because it's not located in the U.S. is flat-out wrong. The only part I tend to agree with is that the Kahnawake relationship with AP/UB is sketchy.
The author doesn't seem to have a CLUE how bonus offers and rakeback works. The comparison to a Ponzi scheme doesn't make any sense. If someone could explain to me what they were trying to say, that'd be great, because I couldn't make heads-or-tails of it.
The author has even LESS of a clue (if that's possible) about how a random number generator and online shuffling/dealing algorithm works. And that's OK, I suppose. A mechanic would find my description of how my car's intake manifold works to be laughably wrong. So I'm not surprised I found literally every sentence to be misinformed.
Makes you wonder though, dont it?
This topic comes up on a regular basis, and I have said before that the weak link in the security is who inspects the inspectors, and who the hell are they?
We take alot on trust.
But it's vital that everyone who plays online poker read this, understand it, and form counter-arguments to every misinformed point in it. It's stuff like the OP which people like Focus on the Family and Jon Kyl are going to use as "proof" that online poker should be illegal.
The more we can do to show that this content is wrong and misleading, the easier it is to stake our position that a ban on the game would also be wrong.
graps should get a mod bonus for actually reading that whole thing.
Conspiracy therories abound. I actually read this entire thing to see how far the author would go without any type of proof. They went pretty far indeed. The way he explained away needing to have proof is that these companies can get away with it, therefore that is the proof necessary to support his argument. Very circular indeed.
FYI I have been to Kanawaki, Quebec. It also has ties to FTP as well as UB/AP. It even has some Scottish and Irish gaming sites that cater to sportsbooking and other types of gambling. Yes they have lesser regulation but the real draw (at least a few years ago when my wife applied as a site director there) was the low Canadian dollar to cover operating expenses and NO Federal taxes. The combination of these two factors meant paying the Reserve for things like Customer Support and Operations was about 1/3rd less than you would pay in the US and 1/2 in Europe. It is akin to move operations to India or Mexico as the cost of operating the business is far less.
Bottom line.. in my opinion. AP got caught and look what has happened to them. If other sites are actually as corrupt and are stealing, these sites are only hurting themselves because for each new incident, governments around the world will start cracking down and banning such sites. So why risk it? All it takes is one disgruntled employee with knowledge and proof to spill the beans.
While i can see individuals of companies who make minimum wage to try and do something illegal, I cannot see the coporation as a whole doing so because the reprucussions would be enormous.
Chalk this article up to someone who probably has lost one too many bad beats.
About the only thing that I can agree with the author is the following, any time your own money is involved it is a "buyer beware" market out there and to withdraw your winnings as you go, but not for the reason the author gives, but to keep your BR management solid.
I agree with you.. when people look for reasons to ban online poker, they turn to articles like these which may look impressive at first due to its length and format, but when you start delving into the article you see the flaws and poor grammar. It is like the global warming scandal, if you put enough big words out there and back it up with data (even when it is faulty or manufactured) you can get people to believe anything.
Recently Fox News went around New York City asking people to sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. They described it as being responsible in part to hurricanes, it is cancerous lesions and is one of the most destructive forces on Earth. All these claims are correct because as most that took high school chemestry know, dihydrogen monoxide is H2O or water.
My point is you can get people to agree to anything when you present the "facts" in a manner that supports your side of the argument and that is what this type of article is designed to do. It attempts to cast doubt and suspicion on all online poker sites all without actually outright accusing any site of anything or actually backing up any of the arguments with substantive proof.
Readers beware of this type of fraud.
Thinking a bit more.. if I ran a site and wanted to use a "robotic player" I would not use it to target specific people. I would use it to fill up empty tables (much l like Casinos use dealers to do and the dealer leaves when a person is on the waiting list) and program said robot to min raise often to increase pots, thus increase rakes.
Oops I spilled the beans now.
How much money do u think the author lost before writing this crap?
Poorly written. Rambling. Lack of proof. This is basically something any player could come up with to justify losing etc
Sweet first post, brah.
from us? no.
from me? yes.
I don't think you understand a ponzi scheme. True, a ponzi scheme is based on using funds from one source to pay another source, but profits are pulled out along the way. This requires geometric growth to continue. Once this growth stops, the ponzi scheme goes under. I don't believe that poker websites have seen geometric growth over the last few years, yet they continue to make money.
One area that you have not accounted for is the amount of money these sites are holding at 0% interest. This is a true money maker that most players don't consider. So many players are normally only using less than 10% of the money they have in their accounts. I have no idea how much of our money is sitting in interest bearing accounts, but it must be a lot. Aside from rake, I would think this would be the second largest money maker, not bots, closing accounts, etc.
While UB, Absolute, etc. are still doing fine, they used to do so much better before their reputations were tarnished.
It made me laugh how you declared the sites were cheating, yet then laid out a plan for participating, wow.
funniest thing to me is I have better evil plans than any I have ever heard here, if you're going to be that "rigged" guy then at least do it well.
Um... Some of the rooms are in our territorial waters and licensed here in the UK. (Examples - Alderney, Isle of Man). Well, by authorities officially sanctioned in the UK, anyway. I doubt there's a tougher gaming control regime anywhere. For example, a lot of L.V wouldn't be able to operate here.
But the OP's point mainly falls down on one thing - there's no evidence. And given the millions of hands in a sample from just a few grinders, statistical evidence of theft would appear barn-door obvious.
Pics or GTFO!
op obv hasnt FT or shipped a big mtt before. He sounds like the a person at the local home game. lol
ps obv waiting for Gags response
Someone should grab the guy from OT that does ms paint cliffs
i was fowllowing in the beginning - we really don't know who we are giving are money to - but that's about it. Makes u think about the fed indicement of full tilt. but thats about it. The whole bot thing is a little much. you can steal alot easier than that. They seem pretty fair. i win more online than real life so...
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