Anyone who has played live poker for an extended period of time knows that pokerstars is not right. I have played poker for almost 9 years. Live I play 3 days a week 10-14 hour sessions. Online 2-3 years a few times a week 6-10 hour sessions.
Once I counted how many aces landed in 500 hands dealt. 438 times there was an ace on the board. Do you ever notice around the bubble and in the money bad beats occur way more often. 99% of the time its deepstacks all of the sudden hitting their miracles almost everytime. out of 332 times dealt AA around the bubble they got cracked 284 times. 332 times dealt AA quite away from the bubble they got cracked 72 times. Interesting. JJ vs AJ my JJ held 54 times out 512 around the bubble. Away from the bubble my JJ held 329. QQ vs AQ held 77 times out of 409 around the bubble. Away from the bubble my QQ held 287 times. I dont get this huge fluxiation at all. It does not make sense mathematically.
The worst thing that ever happened to me was on the bubble of the sunday million KK vs AA. Flop K7K turn A river A. Tha the next week 4 from the money in the sunday million (no idea why all these people called my all in anyways) KK vs QQ vs 1010 vs 99 YES 4 ALL INS. I was first to act.. I raised.. QQ reraised 10 10 and 99 smooth called. Knowing I cant let 4 people see the flop I pushed my entire stack all in. everyone called. Flop KQ10 turn 3 river J. Right.....real normal. Course the only person who had us outchipped was the goof who called with 99.two of us had approx 10k less in chips and he called his entire tournament pretty much with 99 ;ast to act after three all ins. Real legit. Poker stars I think your shady!!!!!

bigger sample size imo

Hey Part of the reason its RIGGED and stays RIGGED is all these idiots that it looks like they never played anywhere except on-line.. All they do is flame players like you and me who know for a FACT that pokerstars IS RIGGED. It is so obvious its not even funny. I stopped playing on line 2 years ago, they aint stealing another dime from me. I play live with players who travel the country and play in major trnys and cash games and i do real well. Dont need to get ROBBED by a poker site program.
Anyone who doesnt realize that on-line is RIGGED does not have a very good knowledge of POKER.

<TABLE class=ipbtable cellSpacing=1><TBODY><TR><TD class=post2 id=post-main-763 vAlign=top width="100%">OK, this is it boys and girls. pokerstars is rigged as are all online gaming sites. When you play online you see many, many more hands per hour, compared to B&M, that's why you see the strange things that you do. . . .don't wanna hear that! That is a cop out!
I play B&M quite often and it's nice to be able to watch the cards come out of a real human's grasp. I win almost every visit to my casino which is 18 minutes from my home, (knock on wood) it may take me a couple more hours to achieve that win on a given day but, I eventually get there! Online, you can go weeks running bad! No matter what you do, you WILL lose. If there is one out remaining for your opposition, it will pop! It's almost paranormal activity, like a Hollywood script! Have you ever heard of the "parity" fuss the NFL endured years ago? Well, online poker is in many ways very similar to that argument. If the superior (player-team) always wins, the general interest depreciates. The populous falls, losers can only lose for so long! Then they become quitters and eventually, bankrupt quitters. Online gambling sites cannot and will not allow this to come about. Enter PARITY. Forged and synthetic parity but parity just the same. Ultimately, their quest for player equality is achieved by the unscrupulous means of rigging and NON random shuffles or as I refer to it, "programmed shuffles". Their perfect world is that everybody has their winning streaks, EVERYBODY! They need to support the phish, primarily because of their inability to learn the game, their appetite to play is burning but their adaption of the game and it's basic fundamentals and it's strategy stalls, thus creating a fish, a loser, and eventually a bankrupt and FORMER member of that particular gaming site. Online gaming sites simply cannot allow that to happen! If they allowed a truly random shuffle to occur just how long do you think they would exist? How long until it's just sharks and no phish? An example would be if you can recall the New Orleans Saints football team. The Saints kept on losing and secured the nick-name "The Aints" and eventually lost almost all their fan support, their attendance plummeted and their revenues took a major hit! They almost went bankrupt, along with a number of other teams. The NFL found the cure, they called it. PARITY. Online poker sites have virtually mimicked this approach. They make sure we all have our wins and our losses. If you play religiously at one site your online destiny is not in your hands, it's all programmed, actually it's software and your player ID (or IP) is logged and computed into it.
What I suggest, if you insist on playing online poker is obtaining membership at five or more sites, play on one site for one week, another site for the following week, etc. Because my personal accounts of play, streaks and win/loss ratios dictates to me that when you are absent from a site for say. . . .a week or so then you log in and resume play you are rewarded with your return, their logs and records are red flagged, you are categorized as a potentially departing member, by their software computations. An absence indicates an unwillingness to participate on the level that they desire you to. They have programming that repairs that! Try it, after your luck soars through the roof e-mail me with your most sincere note of gratitude for this most valuable piece of information. One note I would add, avoid skins. Some sites have skin sites, with the same programming and identical software to track you. GL, e-mail me at .net
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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

-- John 8:32

You have heard of internet poker. Even chimpanzees screwing in the rainforests

of central Africa are aware of internet poker by now. If you are reading this, you almost

certainly have already tried internet poker and may be well on your way to being a sad

addict. You know the game and think you know how to play. You are wrong.

The truth is that you really don't.

Notwithstanding that you probably understand the rules of the game, are familiar

with how a poker game is run and may even comprehend how the house gets paid , you

really don't know the whole story. The internet has turned the poker game you know

and play totally upside down.

Internet poker is rigged.

RIGGED.

In order to defend yourself, you need to know the truth. You need to know who's

doing it and how you it works. If you don't, you have nobody to blame but yourself when

the system sucks up your entire bankroll and leaves you crying in your beer. Get smart.

Get educated. Maybe even get rich in the process.

Why I think it seems rigged: In casinos, most big bets or pot-sized bets are respected and players fold. You protect your hand by betting it strong. I don't see too much wackiness in live poker games, except for the occasional maniac at the $1/$2 No Limit table who keeps pulling out wads of $100 bills.
Like it or not, online poker is a totally different dynamic. Players don't have to face the music sitting in the comfort of their own home, and you see many more reckless plays because of that, even worse than the loose aggressive players in casinos who play a lot of pots and are there just to gamble. That's why online poker seems rigged to some, because bad players will make bad calls and sometimes those bad calls are rewarded. But not every single time, like you conspirators seem to think.
The conpirators have said that it's more rigged at lower levels. But I think it seems that way because of the bad players making bad calls so you just see it more often. Just go play in a freeroll and see how many bad beats come there! The reason is that people will play any 2 cards and get lucky. And you see it A LOT. Now why the hell would they rig a freeroll? I want to know if anyone playing the $10/$20+ levels or $100+ tourneys think it's rigged.
There is just much more luck involved at the lower levels because you are going to be facing a mich wider range of hands and you will see a lot more interesting hands being made.

But that is just my opinion. Not trying to disprove anyone. Just throwing that out there for consideration. I've seen some sick runs by a guy in my home game who NEVER folds and is always getting lucky as hell, so I know that it can happen anywhere.

people that play freerolls don't have money to go play a raked game so this pt fails......do they rig play money too then so you can go play another play money game.....

 

Originally Posted by hummer

If the players that play freerolls never play raked hands then why do they have freerolls. Is this like a soup kitchen they are just doing good deeds. I think not. WAKE UP PLS.

Please re-read the previous post hummer. No one said they NEVER play raked hands. I believe the comment was that people who play in freerolls don't have any money in their account to play raked hands. Which is mostly true. And someone has to win money in the freeroll so, yes, it is a good deed. But most people just give it right back anyway. But some can parlay their freeroll money into a lot more.

P.S. What about AJK, CKing and other pokerstars millionaires. Did they figure out the "system"?

So...they rig it so the good players at low levels get beat and don't come back?

Oh, and they're not taking the freeroll winnings for the house. Real people win those. lol

Well, unfortunately, some of us don't have a local casino. Though there is a riverboat casino with a $100 buy-in tournament I tried a couple of times. You wanna talk about GARGBAGE? Haha...First tourney, dude called my preflop raise with J8 off. He called me down with a gutshot that he spiked on the river after going all in on the turn. Next tourney, I was re-raised all in preflop holding Kings. This guy turns over 34 sooooted. I turned a set, only to be flushed out on the river. So, I vowed to not go back because of the horrible players. Not because I thought it was rigged. I've played all over Vegas and AC, seen horrible plays there too. You just don't see it as much because there is that human element.
And as far as freerolls...I just asked if you thought they were rigged too and what was the point of rigging them. Don't forget...I got all my poker money this year from a freeroll :) Are they coming for me? Should I email pokerstars and ask why they are letting me win?

haha...you got your opinion...I got mine :) And right now, I'm glad I'm not listening to yours! I'm making money that's not even mine and I'm happy. And if you're right and if I lose it all in the end...I'm still even. But I'm going to have fun playing this game.

Have fun chasing comets and drinking the Kool-Aid pal

I'm really getting tired of correcting you. I've been playing for over 20 years, so I know what I'm doing. Loooong before you even knew what it was kid. I'd love to play against you sometime.

P.S. My limit is $85 now GUY

Guess we'll see one day

Yes I believe the losing players are not aware that its RIGGED because they lack the knowledge to realize it. I agree with you.

 

Originally Posted by hummer

Yes I believe the losing players are not aware that its RIGGED because they lack the knowledge to realize it. I agree with you.

My sarcasm meter is broken. Elaborate please.