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  1. SamuraiPlaya SamuraiPlaya is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2011 (4/4/2011 2:52am)

    ***** Hand History for Game 29606693513 ***** (Full Tilt)
    Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, April 03, 09:21:59 ET 2011
    Table 58500 Guarantee (226461700) Table 3 (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: SamuraiPlaya ( $3179304.00 USD )
    Seat 3: phillyphan65 ( $4356960.00 USD )
    Seat 4: arpitm08 ( $3923736.00 USD )
    SamuraiPlaya posts ante of [$20000.00 USD].
    phillyphan65 posts ante of [$20000.00 USD].
    arpitm08 posts ante of [$20000.00 USD].
    arpitm08 posts small blind [$80000.00 USD].
    SamuraiPlaya posts big blind [$160000.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SamuraiPlaya [ 9c 9d ]
    phillyphan65 raises [$320000.00 USD]
    arpitm08 folds
    SamuraiPlaya raises [$2999304.00 USD]
    phillyphan65 calls [$2839304.00 USD]
    SamuraiPlaya shows [9c, 9d ]
    phillyphan65 shows [Ts, Ah ]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Qd, 7s ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
    phillyphan65 wins $6458608.00 USD from main pot

    So, were 3 handed and all 25bbs w/ even chip stacks.

    $18k to first
    $11k to 2nd
    $8k to 3rd

    Me and the other player ask to look at the numbers and at least discuss a chop which wouldve GTD all of us at least $12k.

    But NO NO, edc5036 thinks he has an edge and declines..

    I tell you this. LMAO @ you having an edge here, you COMPLETELY got OWNED by arpitm08

    Just another due soul making less than +EV decisions and running ahead of expectation...

    hope to see you at Turning Stone in August
    Edited By: SamuraiPlaya Apr 4th, 2011 at 02:57 AM
     
  2. SamuraiPlaya SamuraiPlaya is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 2:54pm) in reply to SamuraiPlaya

    Sunday I was really steamed that PhillyPhan did not want to chop given the shallow structure etc... I since have thought it through and I made a blog post on it.

    link to my blog: http://samuraiplaya.blogspot.com/
     
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  3. edc5036 edc5036 is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 6:13pm) in reply to SamuraiPlaya

    hey man nice blog but I totally disagree with your thoughts that me not chopping was somehow bad, -EV, or somehow unoptimal for me. Obviously 3handed 20-30BBs deep edges aren't massive, but they're clearly a lot bigger than you think. and I kept silent throughout most of the dealmaking 4handed, when that other dude started insisting on $60 more than chip ratio I just laughed and said fuck it lets play. YOURE the one who was completely desperate to chop and I have every right to say no thank you, let's keep the payouts the same as what they're been the entire time and just play. I wanted 1st so it'd be my #1 score anyway.

    Your OP is full of mistakes too. 1st off 4.3M =/= 3.1M. Not even close. Especially when you're to my right. and LOL @ arpitm08 owning me. Because I r/f vs him a couple hands in a row 3 handed??? Our heads up match lasted about 10 hands and he was begging me to chop throughout the match. Like after this hand to keep him alive:

    Full Tilt Poker Game #29606769554: $58,500 Guarantee (226461700), Table 3 - 80K/160K Ante 20000 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:25:02 ET - 2011/04/03
    Seat 3: phillyphan65 (8,739,720)
    Seat 4: arpitm08 (2,720,280)
    phillyphan65 antes 20,000
    arpitm08 antes 20,000
    arpitm08 posts the small blind of 80,000
    phillyphan65 posts the big blind of 160,000
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to phillyphan65 [3c 3h]
    arpitm08 raises to 2,700,280, and is all in
    phillyphan65 calls 2,540,280
    arpitm08 shows [Jh Ks]
    phillyphan65 shows [3c 3h]
    *** FLOP *** [2s Jd Kd]
    *** TURN *** [2s Jd Kd] [Qs]
    *** RIVER *** [2s Jd Kd Qs] [6h]
    arpitm08 shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
    phillyphan65 shows a pair of Threes
    Hit21NRun (Observer): ship
    dacumback1d (Observer): haha ez game
    arpitm08 wins the pot (5,440,560) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Hit21NRun (Observer): ship
    Hit21NRun (Observer): ship
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5,440,560 | Rake 0
    Board: [2s Jd Kd Qs 6h]
    Seat 3: phillyphan65 (big blind) showed [3c 3h] and lost with a pair of Threes
    Seat 4: arpitm08 (small blind) showed [Jh Ks] and won (5,440,560) with two pair, Kings and Jacks

    He makes it all of two minutes after that hand before the match ends. Yup he really owned me.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #29606825353: $58,500 Guarantee (226461700), Table 3 - 80K/160K Ante 20000 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:27:15 ET - 2011/04/03
    Seat 3: phillyphan65 (6,199,440)
    Seat 4: arpitm08 (5,260,560)
    phillyphan65 antes 20,000
    arpitm08 antes 20,000
    arpitm08 posts the small blind of 80,000
    phillyphan65 posts the big blind of 160,000
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to phillyphan65 [4h Kd]
    arpitm08 raises to 320,000
    phillyphan65 calls 160,000
    *** FLOP *** [Tc Th 4s]
    phillyphan65 checks
    arpitm08 has 15 seconds left to act
    da_champz_nz (Observer): GLGL PHILLY :)
    arpitm08 bets 340,000
    phillyphan65 has 15 seconds left to act
    phillyphan65 calls 340,000
    *** TURN *** [Tc Th 4s] [4c]
    phillyphan65 checks
    arpitm08 has 15 seconds left to act
    arpitm08 bets 640,000
    phillyphan65 has 15 seconds left to act
    phillyphan65 raises to 5,519,440, and is all in
    arpitm08 has 15 seconds left to act
    arpitm08 has requested TIME
    arpitm08 calls 3,940,560, and is all in
    phillyphan65 shows [4h Kd]
    arpitm08 shows [9s 9d]
    Uncalled bet of 938,880 returned to phillyphan65
    *** RIVER *** [Tc Th 4s 4c] [7d]
    phillyphan65 shows a full house, Fours full of Tens
    arpitm08 shows two pair, Tens and Nines
    phillyphan65 wins the pot (10,521,120) with a full house, Fours full of Tens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 10,521,120 | Rake 0
    Board: [Tc Th 4s 4c 7d]
    Seat 3: phillyphan65 (big blind) showed [4h Kd] and won (10,521,120) with a full house, Fours full of Tens
    Seat 4: arpitm08 (small blind) showed [9s 9d] and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines
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  4. SamuraiPlaya SamuraiPlaya is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2011 (4/7/2011 11:28am) in reply to edc5036

     
    Originally Posted by edc5036 View Post

    hey man nice blog but I totally disagree with your thoughts that me not chopping was somehow bad, -EV, or somehow unoptimal for me. Obviously 3handed 20-30BBs deep edges aren't massive, but they're clearly a lot bigger than you think. and I kept silent throughout most of the dealmaking 4handed, when that other dude started insisting on $60 more than chip ratio I just laughed and said fuck it lets play. YOURE the one who was completely desperate to chop and I have every right to say no thank you, let's keep the payouts the same as what they're been the entire time and just play. I wanted 1st so it'd be my #1 score anyway.

    You are right. You played well and congrats ^^

    I did think he was outplaying you 4-5 handed, so much so that at one point you had raise/folded to his 3b 7 consecutive times you opened(even below 20bbs once) and some of my friends railing on chat thought you guys may be chip dump/colluding lolz(obv I dont believe that)

    Again, congrats and gl in future :-)
     
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