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  1. angryc0w angryc0w is offline

    Charleston, SC
    United States

    Posts: 89
    Joined: Oct 07

    Jan 15th, 2008 (1/15/2008 10:11pm)

    pokerstars Game #14589488986: Tournament #73980389, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/01/15 - 23:07:16 (ET)
    Table '73980389 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: HeavyK_13 (1300 in chips)
    Seat 2: angryc0w (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: BBOAKS (1430 in chips)
    Seat 4: TimboTCT (1440 in chips)
    Seat 5: jalex1ff (1450 in chips)
    Seat 6: H.I. (1440 in chips)
    Seat 7: qfire (990 in chips)
    Seat 8: Mark two (1080 in chips)
    Seat 9: bikerboyz (2880 in chips)
    Mark two: posts small blind 10
    bikerboyz: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to angryc0w [Ks Kh]
    angryc0w said, "?"
    HeavyK_13: folds
    angryc0w: raises 40 to 60
    BBOAKS: calls 60
    TimboTCT: folds
    jalex1ff: folds
    H.I.: folds
    qfire: raises 40 to 100
    Mark two: calls 90
    bikerboyz: calls 80
    angryc0w: raises 1390 to 1490 and is all-in
    BBOAKS: folds
    qfire: calls 890 and is all-in
    Mark two: folds
    bikerboyz: calls 1390
    *** FLOP *** [9h 7s 6s]
    *** TURN *** [9h 7s 6s] [2h]
    *** RIVER *** [9h 7s 6s 2h] [3c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bikerboyz: shows [8s Th] (a straight, Six to Ten)
    angryc0w: shows [Ks Kh] (a pair of Kings)
    bikerboyz collected 1000 from side pot
    qfire: shows [Qh Jd] (high card Queen)
    bikerboyz collected 3130 from main pot
    Mark two said, "wtf"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4130 Main pot 3130. Side pot 1000. | Rake 0
    Board [9h 7s 6s 2h 3c]
    Seat 1: HeavyK_13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: angryc0w showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 3: BBOAKS folded before Flop
    Seat 4: TimboTCT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: jalex1ff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: H.I. folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: qfire (button) showed [Qh Jd] and lost with high card Queen
    Seat 8: Mark two (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: bikerboyz (big blind) showed [8s Th] and won (4130) with a straight, Six to Ten

    ....nothing to say
  2. welshFARg0 welshFARg0 is offline

    Rock Hill, SC
    United States

    Posts: 326
    Joined: Dec 07

    Jan 15th, 2008 (1/15/2008 11:09pm) in reply to angryc0w

    So long as this isnt the 10rebuy (there's one 3kish stack at ur table but thats only indication that it might be) I feel sorry for you...I busted w/ KK vs A8 and AKs (AKs allin on 10high flop) in 2 of the 3 i played today (but the A8 was 10fpp freeroll).

    If it was 10r open shove KK sometimes here as you will get calls. If it was a freezeout consider throwing your "raise the same w/ all hands" thoughts out the window...you need to force them into mistakes when they call w/ drawing hands...by raising 60 at 10/20 w/ 1500 stacks you really cant make them make a mistake if you consider implied odds. If you read PNLH it talks about stack to pot ratios. To use them in tournaments means making bigger raises w/ hands who's likely strength on most flops will be top pair or an overpair when the blinds are low. Once everyone gets down to 20-40bbs later in the tourney the size of the blinds takes care of these ratios for you so that 3x to 4x raises are perfectly fine from an implied odds perspective.
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